On Monday 17 September 2001 08:09, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
| But if we look at the bin Laden complaint against the US:
|
|       - The US currently has a state of military occupation in
|         KSA (Saudi Arabia). The US came when Iraq acted up, but they
|         have not left.

we have been asked to stay, repeatedly and continuously, by the saudi 
royal family.

|       - bin Laden has problems with the KSA royal family. He, and
|         many others too afraid to say so, would prefer a proper
|         Islamic setup, perhaps like in Iran these days. However,
|         the US is, effectively, supporting continued suppression of
|         the Saudi peoples by their support of the royal family.

"proper islamic setup"? you, sir, are guilty of perhaps the greatest 
ethnic slur that could be uttered, for you have in that statement 
painted all islamic peoples with the bin laden brush. iran, shiite, 
would love nothing more than to see all the sunnis fall, which 
includes bin laden, afghanistan, iraq, and a substantial portion of 
the arab world (iranians, by the way, are not arabs). in short, like 
so many europeans, you have no goddam idea what you're talking about.

|       - So, he wants the US out of KSA so the country can move forward.
|         As long as the US stays, he feels it is a military occupation
|         that does more to support the royal family than to deter Iraq
|         or increase peace in the area. And, peace in KSA and the Gulf at
|         the price of attacks at home?

your definition if forward is a peculiar one. and we do not give a 
toot as to what he feels until what he feels is the fires of hell, 
which shall be coming along to collect him shortly. 

| In no way does this justify September 11th.

ah yes, the whole "the u.s. had it coming, but that's not to say that 
the u.s. had it coming" crap we're beginning to hear from the 
cheese-eating surrender monkeys of the world.

| But if the US would
| just stay out of some problems, all might be better off. As to the
| concern over oil, well, there are other sources than KSA. If an
| Islamic regime started by cutting back on oil, then so be it.
| Conserve. It is possible.
|
| I still agree with Keith that terrorism will not go away. There
| will never be a time when everyone is content. So why go out of
| your way to be a target?

your ringing endorsement of cowardice is duly noted.

-- 
dep

There is sobbing of the strong,
And a pall upon the land;  
But the People in their weeping
Bare the iron hand;
Beware the  
People weeping
When they bare the iron hand.
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