BadMan wrote:

> Lonnie,    Honestly I don't remember what I did, have been using the
> kde2 for some time and installed via console.. How can I check my kdm
> for kde2 to see if it has PAM support, since those are the only
> messages I receive?Can a user specifically run kde2 from a console
> they login, or must it start from the kdm?(Of course I have every
> intentions of fixing this), but I truly hate using lookout to send and
> receive mail  8^(.. could do the pine  but I like kmail(and all my
> pretty filters)

Well, I'm sorry I can't help much as I'm unfamiliar with your distro and
PAM.  But here are some things:

You can run ldd <full path to kdm> to see what libraries it uses.  This
will tell you it's statically linked or it uses some shared libs - look
for libpam, I think.

You seem to have PAM problems, as suggested.  Perhaps you should read up
on that and see how it works.  Assuming that you don't have PAM in kdm,
what would happen?  Seems that kdm would try authenticating by
/etc/passwd or /etc/shadow, wouldn't it?  So, since you get PAM
messages, seems more likely that your PAM setup is confused, rather than
missing from kdm.

The one kdm config I'm familiar with uses files in /etc/X11/xdm to
control how it runs.  There are scripts there that get called a various
points during the startup of kdm and kde.  If you read the xdm man page
carefully enough it explains the sequence of events.  So then you can
look through the scripts and see what happens.  One thing that trips
people up is that when a script runs as root, before any user is logged
in, the environment (esp. PATH) is not what they expect.  I don't think
that is your problem, but perhaps you have old scripts around.

Are you using a distro with some kind of package management?  Seems like
it should have been easy to remove the old kde.  If you are, perhaps use
it to remove all kdes and then just reinstall what you want to run.  The
alternative, understanding X/kde/your distro well enough to fix it by
hand, will earn you respect and enable you to help many others on this
list.  But it may take quite a bit of time, too ;-)

Sorry that I have more questions than answers.

Dave


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