On Sunday 30 December 2001 03:22 pm, you wrote: > [ snips ] > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:10:46 -0800 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 30 December 2001 01:48 pm, you wrote: > > > > > If your typos are in a product you're selling, I won't buy it. If > > > > > you can't proofread, how good are you at testing your software > > > > > > > > Yes, you are. I didn't find any typos in Mandrake or Caldera > > > > distros that failed to install on my PC or in Redhat distros that > > > > had a flaky compiler/glibc environment for everyone's PC, but I'm > > > > too picky to use them any more. > > > > > > I am in agreement with Dave. Typo's are unacceptable. It truely shows > > > how much 'true' effort was put into the thing. I see more and more > > > companies putting things out with typo's in them, it's pathetic. > > > > Typo's or no typo's, my greatest bitch with elx is that I had to go > > change permissions on quite a few items in order to use them as a user. > > This is not the first distro I've tried (nor probably the last) Most > > machines at this site run Caldera other than this one (my lab rat). I've > > not had to go through so many changes on the other machines as I had to > > on this one. I'm constantly looking for distro's that can be installed > > and "used" by wintendo converts and at first thought that elx would fill > > this requirement. But for now, I'll continue playing with it and see > > what the 1.0 release is like and hopefully they'll see that running > > primarily as root is really not an option. Can you imagine a wintendo > > convert running linux as root? Good grief, I shudder just thinking about > > it. JMHO and this to me is a BFD! > > "You pays you money, you takes you chances." > > In my case, I paid absolutely zip and got an extremely well-crafted and > functional product for the price of a few hours download and two burnt > CDs. I also got access to a professionally constructed web site with a > well grounded plan to encourage Windows users to migrate to linux as well > as an offer to help with that endeavor. I got a desktop environment that > will probably appeal to a lot of Windows refugees. I got immediate > response for my questions from the developers. I got all-in-all fewer > bugs than I ever did from Mandrake and Caldera and SuSE and gentoo distros > I've used in the past. And just for a bonus, I got one #@!& typo in a > pre-release distro, and that fact has you anal types in an uproar. > > Now Ted has a slightly more rational complaint - ease of use for device > allocation which is one of the not-so-user-friendly areas of a *nix > system. Every distro is going to handle this differently. Either you set > permissions to permit anyone access to devices and deal with the security > ramifications, or you set exclusive permissions and require use of root to > alter those permissions as required. I've had much grief on Caldera > distros and others just getting pppd functions to work. This is nothing > new. > > Granted, no distro is going to recommend running as root other than > briefly to accomplish brief tasks, nor does elx do that, but every new > Linux user is going to need to learn how and how not to use the power of > root. > > I don't have any serial devices, Ted, so I can't comiserate. The elx > distro has been easier for me to install, manipulate, and tailor than any > I've used in the past. I would not hesitate to recommend this one to a > newbie.
Us anal types? uncool, unnecessary.....and with that I'm done. _______________________________________________ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users