On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:01:05 -0800 Vern W Heesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 30 December 2001 03:22 pm, you wrote: > > [ snips ] > > > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:10:46 -0800 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote:> On Sunday 30 December 2001 01:48 pm, you wrote: > > > > > > If your typos are in a product you're selling, I won't buy > > > > > > it. If you can't proofread, how good are you at testing > > > > > > your software > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you are. I didn't find any typos in Mandrake or Caldera > > > > > distros that failed to install on my PC or in Redhat distros > > > > > that had a flaky compiler/glibc environment for everyone's PC, > > > > > but I'm too picky to use them any more. > > > > > > > > I am in agreement with Dave. Typo's are unacceptable. It truely > > > > shows how much 'true' effort was put into the thing. I see more > > > > and more companies putting things out with typo's in them, it's > > > > pathetic. > > > > > > Typo's or no typo's, my greatest bitch with elx is that I had to > > > go change permissions on quite a few items in order to use them > > > as a user. This is not the first distro I've tried (nor probably > > > the last) Most machines at this site run Caldera other than this > > > one (my lab rat). I've not had to go through so many changes on > > > the other machines as I had to on this one. I'm constantly looking > > > for distro's that can be installed and "used" by wintendo converts > > > and at first thought that elx would fill this requirement. But for > > > now, I'll continue playing with it and see what the 1.0 release is > > > like and hopefully they'll see that running primarily as root is > > > really not an option. Can you imagine a wintendo convert running > > > linux as root? Good grief, I shudder just thinking about it. JMHO > > > and this to me is a BFD! > > > > "You pays you money, you takes you chances." > > > > In my case, I paid absolutely zip and got an extremely well-crafted > > and functional product for the price of a few hours download and two > > burnt CDs. I also got access to a professionally constructed web > > site with a well grounded plan to encourage Windows users to migrate > > to linux as well as an offer to help with that endeavor. I got a > > desktop environment that will probably appeal to a lot of Windows > > refugees. I got immediate response for my questions from the > > developers. I got all-in-all fewer bugs than I ever did from > > Mandrake and Caldera and SuSE and gentoo distros I've used in the > > past. And just for a bonus, I got one #@!& typo in a pre-release > > distro, and that fact has you anal types in an uproar. > > > > Now Ted has a slightly more rational complaint - ease of use for > > device allocation which is one of the not-so-user-friendly areas of > > a *nix system. Every distro is going to handle this differently. > > Either you set permissions to permit anyone access to devices and > > deal with the security ramifications, or you set exclusive > > permissions and require use of root to alter those permissions as > > required. I've had much grief on Caldera distros and others just > > getting pppd functions to work. This is nothing new. > > > > Granted, no distro is going to recommend running as root other than > > briefly to accomplish brief tasks, nor does elx do that, but every > > new Linux user is going to need to learn how and how not to use the > > power of root. > > > > I don't have any serial devices, Ted, so I can't comiserate. The > > elx distro has been easier for me to install, manipulate, and tailor > > than any I've used in the past. I would not hesitate to recommend > > this one to a newbie. > > Us anal types? uncool, unnecessary.....and with that I'm done. Vern, i hope that's only with this thread... there is another solution.... it's called a killfile. i'm about to use it right now... collins --> PLONK have a nice day. -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Linux Step by Step Mirror: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/ -- There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson _______________________________________________ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
