On Fri, 2014-01-31 at 13:27 +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: 
> On Fri, 2014-01-31 at 12:56 +1300, Adrian Mageanu wrote:
> > On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 08:50 +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote:
> > [...] 
> > > Off Topic yes... I had one pimp ask me to come in and just fill out some
> > > forms: 
> > > 
> > >   - authorization to perform police check
> > >   - ditto credit check
> > > 
> > 
> > Sadly, this - and (a lot) more - is the norm nowadays when dealing with
> > recruiters. Peer recommendations are not enough any more.
> 
> I disagree... this kind of thing is completely unacceptable. 
> 
> These recruitment agencies are in communication with me as a
> representative of my company, not me. It's a limited company and has
> been in existence for the best part of a decade.
> 
> If this agency was communicating with IBM for example, would they demand
> such things from the IBM staff members involved?
> 
> Steve
> 
> (To keep on topic... it's a linux consultancy (: )

+1 for the sentiment. It's one thing when the job demands it and the
employer is required by law to do these checks *after* you've been
short-listed in the last round of interviews (BTDT, fingerprints and
all), but today everybody is a NSA wannabe. Makes you feel like
inadequate merchandise from start, even if you know you'll pass every
check and have nothing to worry about.

Back on topic, that ad was hilarious, especially seeing how it started
on the UC website, but if I understand you right you were trying to find
clients for your company's Linux consultancy services through a
recruitment agency? Well, companies don't do that. They behave
differently, using marketing and sales techniques to find clients and
close contracts. And you're pretty good at it </off list knowledge
disclosure>, so don't waste your time like that.

For most of the recruitment agencies in town (yes, there are exceptions)
if you go physically or electronically through their door for anything
other than buying their services, you'll look like a nail to them and
they'll use the "total informational awareness" hammer on you, no matter
if you are from IBM or G3. Same for some companies or government
departments if you use their HR door.

We live interesting times.


Adrian

(...I use Linux too)


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