Gaspar Sinai asked me to forward this to the list for him, since he was
having problems. The listar complaint is at the bottom, but it is
otherwise untouched.

Date:   Mon, 18 Feb 2002 09:20:22 +0900 (JST)
From:   Gaspar Sinai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:     <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Security

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Glenn Maynard wrote:
[...]
> > I could not reach this level in my arguments because I was told
> > that there  is no problem at all and I felt I have two choices:
> > being violent or just silently unsubscribe from the list. I
> > chose that latter.
>
> You showed that there are problems with bidi rendering, and I don't think
> anyone disagreed with that.  Your example was too contrived for people to
> consider it a major problem.

Thank you for accepting that however small it is, there is
a problem.

At first I thought there is a contradiction between this and what
appeared after I presented the second example on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailing list:

On Mon, 4 Feb 2002Michael (michka) Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> The only issue though is that we do not have a problem, here?

Then,

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 Michael Everson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

> We like Unicode. We work to make it better. Sometimes people
> come to us with problems that aren't problems, or raise issues
> that have been dealt with many times before. Sometimes people
> bring us  real problems that need real solutions. We're an
> intelligent bunch, methinks, and we can tell the difference.
> Unicode may  have warts, but it's a lot better than ISO 2022.


So as I said at first glance there seemed to be a contradiction
because some people did accept there is a problem:

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 David Starner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> Why would that fix the problem?

But this moring - as I was watching on TV that the US troops
stationary in Japan might increase - it came like a flash:
The problem is solved!

I humbly admit this problem is solved and I will  write a header
to the  original page accordingly. I won't remove  the whole page
however, because I don't want to confuse people reading mailing
list archives.

Thank you all for the help,
Gaspar

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