On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 11:44 AM Bob Marcan <bob.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 10:40:49 -0500
> Denis Kenzior <denk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Kalle,
> >
> > > For user experience scanning and DHCP are also important, what kind of > 
> > > numbers you get when those are included? No need to have anything> 
> > > precise, I would like just to get an understanding where we are> nowadays.
> >
> > Scanning heavily depends on the RF environment and the hardware.  In our 
> > testing ath9k takes stupid long to scan for example.
> >
> > But in a sort of best case scenario, using limited scan and no mac change, 
> > iwd connects in ~300ms.  People have reported that they have not finished 
> > opening their laptop screen and they're connected, so at that level of 
> > latency, every millisecond is important and totally worth fighting for.  
> > Randomizing the MAC would penalize our connection times by 2X (300 ms at 
> > least).  And Android folks have reported the penalty to be as high as 3 
> > seconds.  So this needs to be fixed.  And do note that this is a feature 
> > every modern OS implements by default.
>
> Randomizing the MAC is a stupid decision.
> Do you realy expect that this will add something to the security?
>

Hi Bob,

Thank you for your post, but this is an opinion and adds nothing to
the technical discussion underway. Let's discuss the patches please.

Thanks,
- Steve

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