Brief summary of the current situation: (as far as we know)

1. We can't replace the first code run because it is ROM (not accessible
from the outside) stored in the Samsung processor.
2. We can't replace code on writable memory because it has to be encrypted
with a key we don't know.
3. For the same reason, we can't do anything with the code we can read since
it's encrypted.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:05 PM, mat h <mat...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry I thought it did use a linux subsystem.
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 12:36 PM, The Seven <these...@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> > Rockbox and uclinux don't have anything in common. Rockbox uses some
> > tiny bits of cherrypicked linux code here and there, but it is certainly
> > not based on linux, as it has its own operating system core.
> > And Rockbox can successfully load and play music at least on most 2Gs.
> > We know about one flash chip type out of about 30 of them that at least
> > sometimes refuses to work properly in Rockbox, but for the vast majority
> > of devices, Rockbox is next to fully functional, only some small things
> > still lacking...
> > My iPod Nano 2G is Rockbox-only since several months now, I completely
> > removed the Apple firmware, and it's working just fine for everyday use.
> >
> > mat h schrieb:
> > > Well rockbox is uclinux, it boots although it doesnt work 100% (cant
> load
> > > music)
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 12:26 PM, The Seven <these...@gmx.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Well, actually, I released that thing, and I don't know anything about
> a
> > >> 2G linux port... That linux boot option is just "reserved for future
> > >> use" ;-)
> > >>
> > >> mat h schrieb:
> > >>> Take a look in the archives, you will see the bootloader that they
> > >> released
> > >>> for the 2G, no idea about the other generations, I went to an ipod
> > touch
> > >>> recently :P
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 12:19 PM, The Seven <these...@gmx.net>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> So have we got somewhere on the 2G/4G?
> > >>>> Actually I'm very interested about your ideas, even though I think I
> > >>>> have got quite a comprehensive overview about those things and the
> > only
> > >>>> plan that I could think of that doesn't run into a dead end
> somewhere
> > is
> > >>>>  figuring out that return address and making our exploit work.
> > >>>> Nevertheless, I would be very pleased to discuss your ideas here.
> > >>>> I may have missed something, and even if I didn't, I would at least
> > like
> > >>>> to clarify *why* a certain plan can't work in the end.
> > >>>> So please just explain your ideas...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Keanen Shaw schrieb:
> > >>>>> I will do neither of those things. I have a few ideas of what to do
> > >>>> myself,
> > >>>>> but I'm sure none of you would listen. The guy who emailed me about
> > my
> > >>>> last
> > >>>>> message didn't even email me back after my response, so I have no
> > >> reason
> > >>>> to
> > >>>>> believe that you guys are getting anywhere.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 3:39 PM, The Seven <these...@gmx.net>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Do you feel like opening it and soldering on the PCB?
> > >>>>>> Or maybe donate it to stooo, our "hardware wizard"?
> > >>>>>> We may indeed need another 3G for board-level testing...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Keanen Shaw schrieb:
> > >>>>>>> Hey people, since I'm on the mailing list I thought it would be
> > >>>>>> appropriate
> > >>>>>>> for me to actually say something without you blokes ignoring it.
> > So,
> > >>>> for
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> last time, I have an iPod Nano 3G that I can run any kind of test
> > on
> > >>>> you
> > >>>>>>> want. It is pretty much disposable, as I have no way to use it
> now
> > >> that
> > >>>>>> I'm
> > >>>>>>> running Puppy Linux. Anyone want to say "nice to know" or "we'll
> > keep
> > >>>> in
> > >>>>>>> touch"? I'm not going to deal with this bullshit anymore.
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