I wasn't sure if running all the time if they make a dent in the power bill 
that is what I was asking do they use so little power were it doesn't matter 
and you don't notice much on the power bill going up. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ian Betts 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:40 AM
  Subject: RE: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: hi


  Dave building is a learning curve of course. Lots of newer motherboards will
  not fit old cases because the attachment posts are not there or there are no
  ports for USB fittings that now have front access.Those later clip in types
  can be removed and brass extensions can be bounght, but cases are cheap if
  you don't go for the flashy kind.

  Why are you using energy savers all the time? When near a power point plug
  in!!

  My computers runs 18 hours a day, but I do not bother with the electricity
  meter!!!

  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dave fales
  Sent: 19 February 2007 17:57
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: hi

  yea hosting my own sight is many moons away when I learn more but for now I
  would like to experiment since I learn best by hands on rather then in a
  class room. I did some experimenting on the computer I can not put the newer
  amd board into that case the spot on the case were all the on board stuff
  sets lee the on board video like usb extra wont line up with the holes on
  the case and I didn't see any way to get rid of the piece of metal that all
  those hook through and screwing it down I could only line up 2 holes with
  the spots to screw the mother board in. so for now I guess I will learn on
  this old beast tell I can an find a real server computer that is able
  faster to learn on
  I did learn one thing if I shut off the BIOS energy saver stuff and use just
  the windows energy savers it will go to sleep or aperies that way and unlike
  when you have the on board energy saving stuff and the monster goes of
  then back on off then on. On networks like you have were the computer has to
  be on 24 hours a day or people can't get to your web sight can you or do you
  use energy saving stuff or can they not go to sleep so they are always ready
  to go. Have you noticed a large jump in the power bill or do computers
  really not take that much electricity to even notice a jump in electricity
  wise. this will be the first time I have left a computer running all the
  time so I guess I will see if this thing uses that much electricity does the
  operating energy saving sleep stuff save just about the same amount has
  the bios ones or has I asked do computer not use enough to even notice a
  jump in the power bill

  You visited my website, so you saw how fast the response time was. If
  you try visiting my websites a few more times during the week, you will
  then have a general idea of how well my DSL service is handling the load.

  I see about 200-300 visitors per day, on average, generating about
  2,000-3,000 page hits per day. I am using an ATT-SBC-Yahoo commercial
  DSL account, which provides me with 5 static IP addresses and speeds of
  3.0 Mbps downstream, 512 Kbps upstream. My entire bill...hardline
  service for one phone line and DSL, local calling package and long
  distance economy package is right around $107.00 per month. I did have
  to pay a one-time surcharge of about $300.00 when I upgraded from the
  residential DSL account I had originally signed up for.

  I do not know much about T1 connections, but here is something I googled
  up on the fly:

  http://www.rfcnet.com/t1specials.php?gclid=CInogO2suooCFQITIgodoFVuPg

  Setting up what I now have running required that I learn a lot about
  various things, like the OpenBSD operating system, setting up DHCP,
  building and troubleshooting computers, getting my servers to work
  correctly with my router, to get DNS resolution.

  I also had to learn how to customise a lot of configuration files for
  things related to Apache web server, sendmail, and other things in the OS.

  I filled in the details a bit at a time, over the course of several
  years, using Yahoo groups like this one and 1PCBuilder, and books
  purchased for pennies on the dollar on eBay, and reading a LOT of manual
  pages, and doing a LOT of Google searches.

  Doing things the way I am doing them took a lot of study, but I like
  understanding what I am doing as much as possible, and having as much
  control over my computing as I can, so for me, it was worth it.

  You might be able to accomplish the same thing for less money and less
  work, by hosting your websites with a service like GoDaddy... where I
  was hosting my sites for a fee of $3.99/month/site, prior to my getting
  the server up and running.

  Changing the subject...

  I see that you are using: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express
  ...to send email.

  I am not sure if this a function of Outlook Express, or how you are
  composing your emails, but I am receiving emails that are all one single
  paragraph.

  This makes them, for me at least, difficult to read.

  You might want to consider breaking them up into shorter paragraphs,
  with one idea per paragraph.

  --
  -wittig http://www.robertwittig.com/
  . http://robertwittig.net/
  . http://robertwittig.org/

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