I'm sorry you've had trouble printing things, Paul. I guess I'm lucky there: 
I've never had any problem printing with Windows - XP or Vista - or Mac's 
System 7, years ago. Quality has never been an issue either. And I don't recall 
any problems with the few pages I printed in Linux Mint - at least not until it 
decided my printer didn't have enough ink for it to work. (Which it was wrong 
about. :) )

Meg


--- In [email protected], "Paul" <pfrederick1@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], William Horne <whorne504@> wrote:
> >
> > I am running Ubuntu 10.10 I can not get the printer to work in Ubuntu works
> > fine in windows xp. Any suggestions?
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> 
> Print in Windows?
> 
> But seriously now printing can be a complicated beast no matter what the 
> platform. Linux likely wouldn't even exist today if not for a certain someone 
> not getting the source code with a new printer.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
> 
> But then again we're not all St. IGNUcius now are we?
> 
> Anyhow I just wanted to illustrate the gravity of printing with a historical 
> perspective to illuminate the fact that this is isn't Linux vs Windows vs 
> OSes that don't even exist anymore! Printing has always been an issue. I've 
> actually found printing to be much better at times in Linux than I've seen 
> Windows do with the exact same hardware.
> 
> But in all fairness I never setup a Postscript preprocesser in Windows either 
> like I have in Linux. 
> 
>  http://i.imgur.com/ZTPRr.jpg
> 
> The same file printed in Windows and Linux, I just used scissors to cut each 
> print out in half so I could display them together better. I'll let you guess 
> which printed what (Hint: how I said it is how they are in the pictures 
> Windows, Linux).
> 
> So now that should establish my pedigree with respect to printing on Windows 
> and Linux platforms. Along with a bit of viva la difference thrown in for 
> good measure.
> 
> I'll be honest I'll strike up a deal with the Devil if it gets me the results 
> I'm after I really don't care. The ends justify the means for me always. 
> Often my ends aren't simple so I am willing to do what it takes in order to 
> achieve them. In case anyone is wondering what those lovely prints were 
> they're a resist mask for an acid etching process to make a printed circuit 
> board and they have to be rather accurate, to within one hundredth of an inch 
> or better.
> 
> They were both printed out on a Postscript type 1 printer with limited RAM in 
> it and like I said I wasn't using a Postscript preprocessor on Windows, just 
> printing direct. Windows did the best it could which ended up being something 
> on the order of 36 DPI (note the faint pencil marks on the lower left of the 
> print on the left where I marked out the "dots") on a printer mechanically 
> capable of 300 DPI. So I assume Windows just did the math and sent the 
> printer as much data as it figured the poor old thing could handle.
> 
> Linux obviously used other trickery to achieve superior results. That 
> trickery is called Ghostscript.
> 
> http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/
> 
> Sounds spooky and it is! Now I've read this thread and no one has made 
> mention of this mysterious creature at all. Let me tell you I've done a bit 
> of printing in Linux and without this jazz unless you're printing plain text 
> you're NOT going to get what you expect!
> 
> Printing on Linux is still a lot like how Fred Flintstone drove to work, feet 
> through the floorboards! In order to achieve superior results you are going 
> to have to feel the pebbles beneath your feet. You WILL have to do some grunt 
> work, and burn up a LOT of shoe leather in the process as well.
> 
> Sure things are a little better today than they were back in the bad old days 
> of LPRng and editing your printcap file but not by much! Whenever I setup a 
> printer on Linux it still takes me some time to completely tweak it to get 
> maximum benefits from the hardware (lately I've just been printing in Windows 
> myself due to a variety of circumstances). Personally I prefer how it used to 
> be over how it is today, it was more robust and cut and dried as to what 
> needed to be done. Made the user take some note of the entire process as well.
> 
> So in conclusion if you want to print on Linux understand how filters work, 
> and how to work with filters as well, how the print spooler works, each step 
> in the complicated dance that has to happen to get a job through the system. 
> When you're done the ends just might justify the means. 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CUPS-block-diagram.svg
> 
> The word of the topic is gestalt. Without this concept Linux printing will be 
> frustrating at best. Nothing worthwhile is ever easy. Good luck!
>




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