On Sunday 18 June 2006 06:27, Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray wrote:
*snip*
> us though Billy to evil, thought M$ was bad, etc... During the couse
> of this debate, suddenly when they were pushed to a corner, they came
> up with the question: Why would you ever use Linux? Why would you
> ever use anything other than Winblows?
>
> Now what about this? Is this how employees of a company, an American
> company owned by a good American citizen, behave? What about the
> philosophies of democracy that Mr. Bush and his cronies are trying to
> push forward? The whole point is that M$ is not as likeable as you
> think. Think of a world without Winblows and you would get the logic.

wait right there. Linus Torvalds isn't responsible for Linux fanatics, 
is he? So how can you hold Billy boi responsible for Windoze fanatics?

> The whole idea of Windows making computing easy does not hold. Yeah
> they have definitely made it a idiot-friendly thing. But that is
> dangerous in the same way that driving would be a dangerous thing if
> you made licenses optional. The plethora of viruses and worms that we
> find everywhere would have been lesser if it was not for that
> Winblows user who so happily clicks on every mail in the mailbox, and
> every .exe on the floppy.

Umm...the problem here is that Windoze isn't idiot proof either. I 
remember a nice quote which says that:

"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to 
build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying 
to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."

Microsoft's _major_ audience includes these "idiots" (no offense meant 
to windoze users) and I guess nobody, not even the F/OSS community can 
create idiot proof softwares. Micosoft can hardly keep up to these 
bigger and better "idiots". Hence the proliferation of worms, viruses, 
trojans, malware etc...

Basically *nix users aren't the average computer Joe or Jane. They are 
people with better understanding of wtf is going on with their computer 
so better security on the *nix platform. I must mention here that these 
people will always have better security on whatever platform they are 
working on. While Linux is inherently secure and Windows being 
relatively less secure, it isn't impossible to get your *nix box r00ted 
while your windoze box remains secure.

Disclaimer: I am neither in the M$ camp nor are they paying me to write 
this. This is my professional opinion. If someone disagrees they are 
free to criticse it. Personally, I hate Microsofties. They are all just 
the same - arrogant zealots trying to cram GBs of RAM in their boxes to 
get their vaporware servers working right. 

Basically, Microsoft engineers wouldn't know what a good architecture is 
even if it came from behind and bit them in their a$$ and stuck there 
until eternity >:(

That cleared, I think we all should be sympathetic towards M$'s patrons, 
afterall handicaps need our kindness and help :P So, please dont get 
into these pointless and never ending Windoze vs Linux debates. You're 
giving Windoze, M$ and their patrons undue importance. It's not even 
worth mentioning, let alone discussing, on LUG lists.

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Dinesh A. Joshi

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