We can all sit here and talk about it and write eloquent articles and do breath taking documentaries, but at the end of the day what are you going to do about it. This goes back further than W, and will only continue if we stay complacent (that is how hitler came to power).

In my humble opinion....Open Source, freedom of ideas, and freedom of information is a good bet. Keep circulating the ideas, the information, and the means to do it (i.e. - OSS). In the end it is the communities that we build that will save us.

It's good to know that there are people out there that can understand this.

John

BTW - I am sorry but I probably cannot make it to this months meeting, but look forward to seeing you all next month.

Chris Penn wrote:
It definitely appears that way............

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Manny <[email protected]> wrote:
Weird how this country reacts to terrorism...

We end up with our own government terrorizing it's own citizens.

That was "W's" ace up the sleeve.  Let's put fear in the population
than we can get away with all kinds of expansionism.

... or was that "V for Vendetta"

-Manny

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 6:12 PM, John Richmond IV <[email protected]> wrote:
So who is going to develop the script that writes over the data on your
disk 4 times if some login incorrectly X number of times?

Seems like the only thing that I can think of to stop the invasion.

Oh and what about the "black boxes" that the teleco's let the gov put in
their hubs to monitor both data and voice lines.  And we let the
teleco's off for violating our rights.  Are going to become Britain
where we are under 24 hour, 100% surveillance by our own government?

BTW I agree with Paul.

John

Paul Saenz wrote:
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:59:22 -0500
From: [email protected]
Things seem to be getting worse.......
Remember the thing about "cash poisoning?"
Randall remarked something about liking to see someone calling a spade
a spade.
The US Government.... People are gonna wake up when it's too late.
What's it gonna take to burst your bubble????
No offense, but it's time to get out of La La land
P.S.

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