It appears I now have only two problems left: 1) discussed and answered already but I can't find the post right now; I'll look again later: The Network Manager Icon still shows up at the top telling me the network is broken. It's not. It's running. It didn't run when I finished the setup; the eth0 entry in the network file was commented out. I had to remove the comment. Then I tried to add a route; it wouldn't take it, but on a reboot it finds the network. The Network Manager Icon was NOT broken before I updated everything.
2) If I log out as one user I cannot log back in either as the same or different user. The screen goes to that beige color that shows up before there's a desktop image, the mouse works, but there's nothing on the screen to click on and none of the hot keys for killing x or switching to a cli work. The latter is the one I can't live with; I posted early morning (3 am or so) on the ubuntu forum; if I don't get an answer later today I'm moving on. To whomever wrote previously about "sticking with ubuntu"; I didn't respond then because I didn't know if you were being sarcastic or not. I still don't, but to give you the benefit of the doubt ... I'm a business user. I don't need drama in my OS. If my best choice is to buy the commercial Novell desktop I will... I won't even think of RHEL or CentOS on the desktop; it's never up-to-date enough for me to build a system. But I'll try Mandriva again before I spend money because I've been happy with it for over three and a half years now. Jeff -- Jeff Lasman, Nobaloney Internet Services P.O. Box 52200, Riverside, CA 92517 Our jplists address used on lists is for list email only voice: +1 951 643-5345, or see: "http://www.nobaloney.net/contactus.html";
