Is there really a reason to be using the network manager at all?  I felt it
was a little important on a laptop when I needed some kind of visual sign I
was connected and what my signal strength was, but other than that I never
really felt it was needed.  If you are using DHCP or static DHCP I see even
less need for it since you are putting address assignment in the hands of
another system.  You can also use /sbin/dhclient to get the lease.  As for
static IP addresses if you don't have a reason to change them I also don't
see the need for the network manager.  Just my 2 cents, but it seems like
something that shouldn't be a deal breaker.  I will also note a lot of
coworkers used to complain about the network manager in Ubuntu and while I
never (except for twice) had problems, a number of people did.  When I did
have problems with it, it caused some severe headaches and because of that I
doubt I would use it on a system that I didn't need to view the strength of
the signal on or want to easily switch between networks, namely laptops.  I
would recommend static DHCP and call it a day.

Jeff, have you tried installing 8.04 or 7.10 even? they are most likely
going to be more recent than RHEL based distros in a lot of ways.  7.10 is
when the 3d desktop effects became pretty good so you wouldn't be taking too
many steps back.

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Paul Saenz <[email protected]>wrote:

>  I believe knetworkmanager is in the ubuntu official repositories.
> or you can get it at this link:
>
> http://linuxappfinder.com/package/knetworkmanager
>
> ------------------------------
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:15:32 -0800
> Subject: Re: [LinuxUsers] only two problems left ...
>
>
> Jeff, is your network connection DCHP or Static?
> If it is static, is your network devices configured in
> etc/network/interfaces?
>
> If it is, then the unmanaged notification is what it's supposed to do.
> According to this bug notification, the NM formerly didn't have unmanaged
> status when network devices are configured in etc/network/interfaces.
> The bug is marked as fixed.
>  That is why DK's NM would revert back to DCHP.
> See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/256054
>
> Like David Kaiser said, if you are on a static IP, then you don't need
> network manager.
> And, this manager is full of bugs.
> Just remove it.
>
> If you're on DHCP, AND/OR
> If you need a network manager use knetworkmanager. (I know you love those k
> apps)
> It's much better than the install Ubuntu NM.
>
> Problem solved.
> No sarcasm here
>
>
>
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:01:00 -0800
> > Subject: [LinuxUsers] only two problems left ...
> >
> > It appears I now have only two problems left:
> >
> > 1) discussed and answered already but I can't find the post right now;
> > I'll look again later: The Network Manager Icon still shows up at the
> > top telling me the network is broken. It's not. It's running. It
> > didn't run when I finished the setup; the eth0 entry in the network
> > file was commented out. I had to remove the comment. Then I tried to
> > add a route; it wouldn't take it, but on a reboot it finds the network.
> > The Network Manager Icon was NOT broken before I updated everything.
> >
> > 2) If I log out as one user I cannot log back in either as the same or
> > different user. The screen goes to that beige color that shows up
> > before there's a desktop image, the mouse works, but there's nothing on
> > the screen to click on and none of the hot keys for killing x or
> > switching to a cli work.
> >
> > The latter is the one I can't live with; I posted early morning (3 am or
> > so) on the ubuntu forum; if I don't get an answer later today I'm
> > moving on.
> >
> > To whomever wrote previously about "sticking with ubuntu"; I didn't
> > respond then because I didn't know if you were being sarcastic or not.
> > I still don't, but to give you the benefit of the doubt ... I'm a
> > business user. I don't need drama in my OS.
> >
> > If my best choice is to buy the commercial Novell desktop I will... I
> > won't even think of RHEL or CentOS on the desktop; it's never
> > up-to-date enough for me to build a system. But I'll try Mandriva
> > again before I spend money because I've been happy with it for over
> > three and a half years now.
> >
> > Jeff
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