You're right about that. I don't know that I'm paranoid, but I won't take this
discussion any further since it has already gone too far off topic. I
don't mean to
be disrespectful to you. You have your right to your opinion, and I
believe I have
a right to my privacy, and I'll leave it at that.

Paul

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Joel Brauer <ehudo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You don't know that you're paranoid do you?
>
> On Dec 27, 2010 5:45 PM, "Paul Saenz" <forensicneoph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> First of all if you don't care about your privacy, that's your'e
>> choice. If I want my privacy, that's my choice. Do you think the world
>> is a better place because they're spending millions if not billions to
>> put camera's on every corner? Do you think that the America is better
>> because they are backing you with microwaves and fondling your
>> testicles at the airport? Do you think the internet is a better place
>> because they are all in your business, checking on your buying habits?
>> Really, who's paranoid here? Do you really think all that trash makes
>> us safer?
>>
>> Second of all, they don't need people to search your emails. They use
>> computer programs to search for keywords. That's what the NSA was
>> caught doing with phone conversations. Remeber?
>>
>> You don't know what the Hegelian dialectic is do you? You don't know
>> that the current German Leaders go to Hegel's grave and honor him for
>> providing the means to establish the European Union. You don't know
>> that the Hegelian dialectic was the philosophy that Hitler used when
>> he gained power in Germany when he had the Reichstag burned down.
>> (Historical fact) You don't know what Mansanto is doing do you? You
>> don't know what senate bill S510 is do you? You don't know what Codex
>> Alimentarious is do you? That's because you've been conditioned. Your
>> reply is a result of conditioning. You didn't know that
>> Swartzenegger's father was in the SS did you. You didn't know that he
>> had the fluoride content of public waters increased did you? You
>> didn't know that the gas that killed the jews in the gas chamber was
>> produced by mixing fluoride with chlorine, which is what they are
>> putting in public water did you? I'm sure that I could bring up a
>> thousand other things that you don't have a clue about.
>>
>> You don't know that your reply is the result of conditioning. You have
>> been conditioned to accept the "peacefull" NOT! totalitarian takeover
>> of America, the land of the free, the brave and, of course, the
>> stupid. (can't leave that out)
>>
>> Finally, it is not a requirement that one lives in a shelter if you
>> are off the grid. You can build a nice self sufficient house with
>> modern technology and live comfortably. You'll probably wish you had
>> when things get bad.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Joel Brauer <ehudo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Guys,
>>> You are being tracked.  Period.  Get over it, or get off the internets.
>>>  The
>>> EFF recently came out with a website that shows that each browser has a
>>> unique footprint even with cookies turned off.
>>>  https://panopticlick.eff.org/  Check it out.  You'll find, very likely,
>>> that they can track you based upon your browser footprint.  This means
>>> that
>>> you can be tracked whether you like it or not.  And the truth is even if
>>> Google does store your info, you are NOT important enough for anyone to
>>> spend any of their time looking at any of your email.  It's all giant
>>> algorithms parsing through it to improve your add targeting thereby
>>> making
>>> them more money.  Your paranoia borders on the silly.  I personally
>>> hardly
>>> have enough time to read all my email as it is.  I don't think google has
>>> employees who are going to read mine and everyone else's faster than I
>>> can.
>>>  Do you?
>>> Want the answer to being tracked.  Well you better spend some time on
>>> wikipedia learning how to grow your own food/ hunt/ build your own
>>> shelter/
>>> ... Then go off the grid.  It's possible, but its not easy, and its not
>>> worth it IMHO.
>>> Joel Brauer
>>>
>>> Only you can decide to be happy!  The rest of life is in the details...
>>>
>>> There are no 'shoulds', only choices and consequences.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Paul Saenz <forensicneoph...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > FUD
>>>> >
>>>> > Look it up.
>>>>
>>>> As I said before, I did search for it. I wouldn't have asked the group
>>>> if I hadn't searched for it first. And I found it recently. It is:
>>>>
>>>> Startingpage.com        solely Google results combined with the
>>>> Startpage/Ixquick privacy.
>>>>
>>>> See starpage privacy policy:
>>>> http://us2.startpage.com/eng/protect-privacy.html
>>>>
>>>> They have extended their users' Privacy with the "Proxy" option, for
>>>> privacy even when you visit a third party site. You find more
>>>> information about the Proxy in the attached PDF.
>>>>
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