On Sep 23, 8:00 pm, Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 23, 2008, at 8:33 AM, Bill wrote:
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> > On Sep 22, 1:37 pm, Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Bill wrote:
> >>> On Sep 22, 12:47 pm, Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Bill wrote:
> >>>>> On Sep 20, 2:39 am, Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sep 18, 2008, at 12:42 PM, Bill wrote:
> >>>>>>> I'm trying to get a system running Centos5 to recognize two ATI
> >>>>>>> HD2600XT RadeonDual headcards and three monitors and am
> >>>>>>> pulling my
> >>>>>>> hair out.
> >>>>>> Geez, and I thought trying to get my two monitors to work was
> >>>>>> difficult... I eventually got fed up and gave up. Better luck
> >>>>>> to you
> >>>>>> though. The thing that bit me in the end was trying to use
> >>>>>> fullscreen
> >>>>>> apps.
> >>>>>>> I'm using the latest ATI drivers and I can get each card to
> >>>>>>> work alone
> >>>>>>> but when I try to get both at the same time I get an error in
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> Xorg.
> >>>>>>> 0.log that indicates:
> >>>>>>> (EE) fglrx(2): Multiview is not supported on the first
> >>>>>>> adapter; this
> >>>>>>> screen will now shutdown.
> >>>>>>> (EE) fglrx(2): PreInit failed
> >>>>>>> Anyone know what this means???
> >>>>>> I haven't a clue, really. The Ubuntu docs are really well
> >>>>>> maintained,
> >>>>>> and they document the same software as your CentOS distro.
> >>>>>> Perhaps
> >>>>>> these Ubuntu pages will help:
> >>>>>>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTohttps://help.ubuntu.co
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>>> Just be wary with Xinerama, since it precludes desktop
> >>>>>> composition.
> >>>>>> Which is a pity, since it works better than TwinView, too.
> >>>>>> Registered Linux Addict #431495http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman
> >>>>>> |John 3:16!http://www.fsdev.net/|http://lordsauron.wordpress.com/
> >>>>> I really want to get this working but NOTHING I do works. I
> >>>>> even when
> >>>>> out and bought another PCIE card by a different Manufacture in the
> >>>>> hope that the ATI driver would play well with another driver. I
> >>>>> got a
> >>>>> Nvidia Geforce 8400 GS to replace one of the dual head cards,
> >>>>> since I
> >>>>> only need 3 monitors not 4. Still no go. If I run the ATI
> >>>>> driver I
> >>>>> can't get both cards to work. If I run the open source Radeon
> >>>>> driver,
> >>>>> radeon_tp, I can get both cards working but only a mirror of the
> >>>>> first
> >>>>> screen on the second screen on the dual head card. I was looking
> >>>>> around and realized that since I do not really need 3D
> >>>>> acceleration at
> >>>>> all the radeon_tp drivers should work so right now I pulled out
> >>>>> all
> >>>>> the cards but one dual head and am trying to get a non-mirrored
> >>>>> setup
> >>>>> going with one dual head card but no matter what I do all I get
> >>>>> is the
> >>>>> mirroring or the Xserver wont start at all.
> >>>>> This REALLY sucks. I can get a dual head two monitor setup
> >>>>> working
> >>>>> just the way it should with the driver from ATI but when I add
> >>>>> another
> >>>>> card into the mix I can't get the new card to work no matter what.
> >>>>> I even tried to play with the Randr program, I saw somewhere
> >>>>> that you
> >>>>> could start up an Xserver with a single screen and then using
> >>>>> xrandr
> >>>>> attach another screen but all of the samples I saw used xrandr
> >>>>> 1.2 and
> >>>>> Centos uses xrandr 1.1 and it seems that the commands used in 1.2
> >>>>> aren't in 1.1, or I'm seriously screwing things up which is quite
> >>>>> possible..
> >>>>> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
> >>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>>>> I REALLY want to swith my desktop here at work to Linux but it
> >>>>> appears
> >>>>> that Linux wont let me!!!!
> >>>> It's probably CentOS that won't let you. CentOS is geared more
> >>>> towards
> >>>> servers. If you tried a more desktop-centric distro like Fedora or
> >>>> Ubuntu it'd probably autoconfigure a lot more of this stuff.
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> >>>> CentOS was also using incredibly stale software IIRC... It's
> >>>> been about
> >>>> 100 days since I last used CentOS, but that was the impression it
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> >>> I don't think so. The errors I'm hitting seem to be driver or
> >>> Xserver
> >>> related. The biggest problem I have is that one card alone works
> >>> perfectly with the driver from ATI but I can't get two cards to work
> >>> and the generic Radeon driver, radeon_tp will not allow me to
> >>> setup a
> >>> dual head. I wish I could find more docs on the generic driver
> >>> but I
> >>> can't seem to find much about it.
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> >>> The reason I want to use CentOS is that my company will be moving
> >>> to a
> >>> new server that will be using a version of RedHat so I wanted a
> >>> similar system to work on to get more used to Linux vs the FreeBSD
> >>> I'm
> >>> used to.
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> >> If it's a server it probably won't even have a monitor attached, so
> >> knowing how to configure Xorg on (IMHO, seriously broken) CentOS
> >> won't
> >> help you much. Linux and FreeBSD are extremely similar except for
> >> the
> >> package manager (I've given PC-BSD a short spin before, it was
> >> interesting, but so similar to Linux that I ended up getting bored.
> >> Where was the difference?)
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> >> If you still can't get CentOS working, try Fedora. It's Red-Hat
> >> based,
> >> and in my experience it's much more desktop-friendly. IIRC, it was
> >> the
> >> second distro in the pretty 3d desktop effects race (after SuSE),
> >> which
> >> is a reasonably good metric of how good their desktop support is-
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> > I'm downloading Fedora as we speak. I'll give it a shot.
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> > I just got done with support for ATI and I must say I'll NEVER buy
> > another ATI based card again! I emailed them and asked them about
> > the error message I'm getting relating to the second card and
> > multiview and I was basically told to F**K off and ask the Linux
> > community if it relates to a Linux OS. No one seems to know what this
> > multiview error is:
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> ATI doesn't have as great a Linux-friendly policy as do other
> companies. NVIDIA isn't good, either. They're most okay because they
> unified their drivers to use the same core GL stack code across all
> platforms. So my NVIDIA driver will suck the same no matter which OS
> it's plugged into.
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> Intel has the best Linux support ATM.
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> > 'fglrx(2): Multiview is not supported on the first adapter; this
> > screen will now shutdown.'
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> > So I figured that the company that made the chipset and driver should
> > know but it seems like they could care less so from now on it's
> > anything BUT ATI !!!!!
>
> It seems that somehow they released a driver that honest-to-goodness
> doesn't even support multiview on Linux. This is an absolute rarity,
> and I'm not sure that's even true. You seem to have tried everything
> possible... so I guess I have to believe that ATI really didn't write
> a multimonitor supported driver for Linux for your card.
>
> If Fedora doesn't work (which if it's a genuine driver deficency, then
> it won't) I'd suggest picking up another cheap-o NVIDIA card. I can
> vouch for the 8500 GT. It's fantastically fast, and worked as fast as
> my older 7800. On Newegg you should be able to pick on up for about
> $60 now, perhaps less.
>
> I hope you have better luck with the rest of Linux. I'll warn you, it
> doesn't always work the first time, but from lots of experience
> administering my own Linux desktop, laptop, and web server, the time
> you put into it pays you back with extra.
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> Registered Linux Addict #431495http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman| John
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I may not have been able to get 2 cards set up when I loaded CentOS
but at least it didn't crash the Xserver right out of the box. When I
set up Fedora I got a graphics screen and was able to walk through the
setup without a hitch the problem comes when I reboot. The system
comes up and when it gets to the point where it should be showing the
gui login screen everything goes black and thats it. I've tried
loading it twice, the second time with the third monitor unhooked just
to make sure it wasn't a similar problem like I was having with CentOS
but nada. If I start up in single user I can log in on the command
line but if I run X I get a black screen. Seems to be something with
the default settings of Xorg. If I try to run Xorg -configure I crash
the whole system. If I play with xorg.conf and give it a Virtual
setting of 1024x768 I can get mirrored screens but I my screens can
handle 1280x1024 and if I try that I get the black screen again.
All in all I'm not real happy with Fedora but I'll play with it a
bit. Hell right now with the firewall turned off and sshd running I
can't even log in or even ping the computer but it can ping anyone
else. AAAAHHHHRRRRRGGGGGGG!!!!
BIll
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