On Sep 23, 8:00 pm, Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 23, 2008, at 8:33 AM, Bill wrote:
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> > On Sep 22, 1:37 pm, Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Bill wrote:
> >>> On Sep 22, 12:47 pm, Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Bill wrote:
> >>>>> On Sep 20, 2:39 am, Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sep 18, 2008, at 12:42 PM, Bill wrote:
> >>>>>>> I'm trying to get a system running Centos5 to recognize two ATI
> >>>>>>> HD2600XT RadeonDual headcards and three monitors and am
> >>>>>>> pulling my
> >>>>>>> hair out.
> >>>>>> Geez, and I thought trying to get my two monitors to work was
> >>>>>> difficult... I eventually got fed up and gave up. Better luck
> >>>>>> to you
> >>>>>> though. The thing that bit me in the end was trying to use
> >>>>>> fullscreen
> >>>>>> apps.
> >>>>>>> I'm using the latest ATI drivers and I can get each card to
> >>>>>>> work alone
> >>>>>>> but when I try to get both at the same time I get an error in
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> Xorg.
> >>>>>>> 0.log that indicates:
> >>>>>>> (EE) fglrx(2): Multiview is not supported on the first
> >>>>>>> adapter; this
> >>>>>>> screen will now shutdown.
> >>>>>>> (EE) fglrx(2): PreInit failed
> >>>>>>> Anyone know what this means???
> >>>>>> I haven't a clue, really. The Ubuntu docs are really well
> >>>>>> maintained,
> >>>>>> and they document the same software as your CentOS distro.
> >>>>>> Perhaps
> >>>>>> these Ubuntu pages will help:
> >>>>>>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTohttps://help.ubuntu.co
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>>> Just be wary with Xinerama, since it precludes desktop
> >>>>>> composition.
> >>>>>> Which is a pity, since it works better than TwinView, too.
> >>>>>> Registered Linux Addict #431495http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman
> >>>>>> |John 3:16!http://www.fsdev.net/|http://lordsauron.wordpress.com/
> >>>>> I really want to get this working but NOTHING I do works. I
> >>>>> even when
> >>>>> out and bought another PCIE card by a different Manufacture in the
> >>>>> hope that the ATI driver would play well with another driver. I
> >>>>> got a
> >>>>> Nvidia Geforce 8400 GS to replace one of the dual head cards,
> >>>>> since I
> >>>>> only need 3 monitors not 4. Still no go. If I run the ATI
> >>>>> driver I
> >>>>> can't get both cards to work. If I run the open source Radeon
> >>>>> driver,
> >>>>> radeon_tp, I can get both cards working but only a mirror of the
> >>>>> first
> >>>>> screen on the second screen on the dual head card. I was looking
> >>>>> around and realized that since I do not really need 3D
> >>>>> acceleration at
> >>>>> all the radeon_tp drivers should work so right now I pulled out
> >>>>> all
> >>>>> the cards but one dual head and am trying to get a non-mirrored
> >>>>> setup
> >>>>> going with one dual head card but no matter what I do all I get
> >>>>> is the
> >>>>> mirroring or the Xserver wont start at all.
> >>>>> This REALLY sucks. I can get a dual head two monitor setup
> >>>>> working
> >>>>> just the way it should with the driver from ATI but when I add
> >>>>> another
> >>>>> card into the mix I can't get the new card to work no matter what.
> >>>>> I even tried to play with the Randr program, I saw somewhere
> >>>>> that you
> >>>>> could start up an Xserver with a single screen and then using
> >>>>> xrandr
> >>>>> attach another screen but all of the samples I saw used xrandr
> >>>>> 1.2 and
> >>>>> Centos uses xrandr 1.1 and it seems that the commands used in 1.2
> >>>>> aren't in 1.1, or I'm seriously screwing things up which is quite
> >>>>> possible..
> >>>>> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
> >>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>>>> I REALLY want to swith my desktop here at work to Linux but it
> >>>>> appears
> >>>>> that Linux wont let me!!!!
> >>>> It's probably CentOS that won't let you. CentOS is geared more
> >>>> towards
> >>>> servers. If you tried a more desktop-centric distro like Fedora or
> >>>> Ubuntu it'd probably autoconfigure a lot more of this stuff.
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> >>>> CentOS was also using incredibly stale software IIRC... It's
> >>>> been about
> >>>> 100 days since I last used CentOS, but that was the impression it
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> >>> I don't think so. The errors I'm hitting seem to be driver or
> >>> Xserver
> >>> related. The biggest problem I have is that one card alone works
> >>> perfectly with the driver from ATI but I can't get two cards to work
> >>> and the generic Radeon driver, radeon_tp will not allow me to
> >>> setup a
> >>> dual head. I wish I could find more docs on the generic driver
> >>> but I
> >>> can't seem to find much about it.
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> >>> The reason I want to use CentOS is that my company will be moving
> >>> to a
> >>> new server that will be using a version of RedHat so I wanted a
> >>> similar system to work on to get more used to Linux vs the FreeBSD
> >>> I'm
> >>> used to.
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> >> If it's a server it probably won't even have a monitor attached, so
> >> knowing how to configure Xorg on (IMHO, seriously broken) CentOS
> >> won't
> >> help you much. Linux and FreeBSD are extremely similar except for
> >> the
> >> package manager (I've given PC-BSD a short spin before, it was
> >> interesting, but so similar to Linux that I ended up getting bored.
> >> Where was the difference?)
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> >> If you still can't get CentOS working, try Fedora. It's Red-Hat
> >> based,
> >> and in my experience it's much more desktop-friendly. IIRC, it was
> >> the
> >> second distro in the pretty 3d desktop effects race (after SuSE),
> >> which
> >> is a reasonably good metric of how good their desktop support is-
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> > I'm downloading Fedora as we speak. I'll give it a shot.
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> > I just got done with support for ATI and I must say I'll NEVER buy
> > another ATI based card again! I emailed them and asked them about
> > the error message I'm getting relating to the second card and
> > multiview and I was basically told to F**K off and ask the Linux
> > community if it relates to a Linux OS. No one seems to know what this
> > multiview error is:
>
> ATI doesn't have as great a Linux-friendly policy as do other
> companies. NVIDIA isn't good, either. They're most okay because they
> unified their drivers to use the same core GL stack code across all
> platforms. So my NVIDIA driver will suck the same no matter which OS
> it's plugged into.
>
> Intel has the best Linux support ATM.
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> > 'fglrx(2): Multiview is not supported on the first adapter; this
> > screen will now shutdown.'
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> > So I figured that the company that made the chipset and driver should
> > know but it seems like they could care less so from now on it's
> > anything BUT ATI !!!!!
>
> It seems that somehow they released a driver that honest-to-goodness
> doesn't even support multiview on Linux. This is an absolute rarity,
> and I'm not sure that's even true. You seem to have tried everything
> possible... so I guess I have to believe that ATI really didn't write
> a multimonitor supported driver for Linux for your card.
>
> If Fedora doesn't work (which if it's a genuine driver deficency, then
> it won't) I'd suggest picking up another cheap-o NVIDIA card. I can
> vouch for the 8500 GT. It's fantastically fast, and worked as fast as
> my older 7800. On Newegg you should be able to pick on up for about
> $60 now, perhaps less.
>
> I hope you have better luck with the rest of Linux. I'll warn you, it
> doesn't always work the first time, but from lots of experience
> administering my own Linux desktop, laptop, and web server, the time
> you put into it pays you back with extra.
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> Registered Linux Addict #431495http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman| John
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I'm at the point where I think I'm gonna drop the dual head ati cards
and go with three individual cards. I already have a Geforce 8400 GS
any idea if two more of the same will work in a system?? I've got 4
PCI-E slots so I think I can wedge 3 cards in.
Bill
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