On Sat, Jun 03, 2006 at 12:45:47AM +0200, Marco Cabizza wrote:
> Il giorno sab, 03/06/2006 alle 00.12 +0200, Lo??c Martin ha scritto:
> > Marco Cabizza a ??crit :
> > >
> > > It's a target for us in Debian, currently, if we get to have some
> > > xorg.conf.d from the X guys, then nobody will actually have to write
> > > anything nor editing any file to get a tablet working because they may
> > > just be shipped in that dir.
> > >   
> > Hi Marco,
> > 
> > Since you're on Debian, could you tell me if Debian also suffers from 
> > the same bug than Ubuntu Dapper, that is /dev/wacom links in xorg.conf 
> > when udev sets it to /dev/input/wacom (thanks to wacom-tools package)?

No.  It doesn't because the Debian generated xorg.conf does not try to
include support for the tablet at all (yet).
That (and gimp reconfiguration etc.) are about the last things remaining
requiring some hand-hacking to configure a tablet.

Marco, who do you mean by 'us'?  I've been talking to a few people about
the future of this, but I don't know where you fit into that picture.

We seem to have a lot of interested parties forming, with little
communication or coordination happening between them.  It's somewhat
especially disappointing to find Ubuntu running with its own forks,
without anyone from that side actually collaborating with the upstream
source of them, ie. myself and this list in this case, to ensure that
changes are going to be inflicted on users smoothly.

For the sake of all our users, I really hope that will change.  If this
is not a suitable forum for such discussions (I'm personally inclined to
think it is), please let me know and I'll ensure we have one available.

I'm always happy to ensure the needs of derived dists are met as well as
can be by the packages I maintain, but if the maintainers for those dists
don't reciprocate, that is pretty near to impossible.  If Ubuntu has a
maintainer for these packages, someone please poke them to come to the
table here.  This isn't a high volume list, there really are few excuses
for interested people not to monitor it and ensure their proposed changes
really do suit the users they are supposed to help and work well across
the board.

We have plenty of work still to do.  That will progress much quicker if
we know who is actually working on what and their changes are not
(accidentally or otherwise) mutually incompatible.

> > If so, do you know what is the state of 0.7.4 packages in debian? Do 
> > they set it correctly?

I posted here previously about the new symlink structure and its
strengths and weaknesses.  We tweaked them a little based on discussion
and so (with no dissent) they are now axiomatically correct...  ;-)

What remains is a better way to permit people to specify what should
be in their xorg.conf -- for that we need to collaborate with the xorg
maintainers.  Interest from that quarter is growing.  Someone with the
time and right connections needs to make and propose a patch for that
to actually happen now.

cheers,
Ron




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