Jose - I will put you on the agenda. Thanks for offering. 

To the rest of the list - I will post the agenda next week. A lot of people 
have requested to present so I think we'll have a packed agenda. 

I would like to poll the list to see if the time slot of Wed 5:00-8:00pm works 
for most people. And we can move to a beer garden or restaurant to continue 
informal discussions afterwards. 

We really want the LISP WG chairs to make it. Terry told me he is free and Joel 
is working out if he can be free. So please send you opinions. 

Joel and Terry, since this time slot is during the Admin Plenary do you thing 
we can just grab an open breakout room that has a projector? 

Dino


On Jul 4, 2013, at 2:03 AM, "Jose Saldana" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>  
> I had talked with Luigi about the possibility of presenting our LISP+TCM 
> optimization proposal in Berlin 
> (http://diec.unizar.es/~jsaldana/personal/budapest_ICC_2013_presentation.pdf).
>  
> Since there is no formal LISP meeting, I would  also like to participate in 
> the “informal LISP+Beer event” and tell you about the idea, if you agree. I 
> think that LISP and TCM can obtain mutual benefits.
>  
> Please keep me informed about that informal event! I will be in Berlin for 
> the TCM BOF, and also for an “online games traffic session”, within the 
> Transport Area Open meeting on Thursday. You are invited of course: 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G96ULX7Iak&feature=em-upload_owner#action=share
>  
> Thanks!,
>  
> Jose
>  
> De: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de 
> [email protected]
> Enviado el: jueves, 04 de julio de 2013 3:49
> Para: Dino Farinacci
> CC: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Asunto: [lisp] 答复: Re: No LISP meeting for Berlin
>  
> 
> Good idea, definitely support. 
> 
> Li Cheng
> 
> 
> [email protected] 写于 2013-07-04 00:25:16:
> 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I understand the rationale of this decision and I have no real complains.
> > > 
> > > Yet,  I cannot stop thinking that Berlin would have been the right
> > opportunity to empty a bit the pipeline. Latest meetings had always 
> > a full agenda. 
> > 
> > I tend to agree.
> > 
> > > There are a bunch of presentations that were scheduled in Orlando 
> > that did not make it (I am part of the problem since I was pretty 
> > chatty in my slot….).
> > > This was the opportunity to give them priority.
> > 
> > And there were a lot planned that I think people would have enjoyed.
> > 
> > > The idea (suggested by Dino) of having an informal LISP+Beer event
> > in Berlin sounds good :-)
> > > 
> > > Luigi
> > 
> > I think the venue needs to following requirements:
> > 
> > (1) A quiet place so everyone can hear the presos.
> > (2) A projector. Someone can volunteer one.
> > (3) Allows enough time, I propose a 2.5 hour meeting.
> > 
> > I can run the meeting and take agenda items. So there are no 
> > limitations. Anyone want to talk about LISP, what they think it 
> > should be, what they think they can do with it, anything, is open 
> > game. So you university types, you deployers, you implementors, 
> > please all come and send agenda items to me. I will post a week before IETF.
> > 
> > Thanks everyone for being open minded. At the end of the day, it is 
> > solely about the technology, and in my mind everything else is secondary.
> > 
> > Dino
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 28 Jun. 2013, at 04:03 , Terry Manderson <terry.
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > 
> > >> Dear LISP Work Group,
> > >> 
> > >> We, the Co-Chairs, have been watching the workgroup closely for activity
> > >> on the current set of documents that have been adopted. Apart from the
> > >> items which have been passed to the IESG we do not believe there has been
> > >> significant progress, discussion, or review of these 'in-play' drafts to
> > >> warrant having a meeting in Berlin.
> > >> 
> > >> We have communicated our observations with the responsible AD and amongst
> > >> us there is full agreement to cancel the LISP session request for Berlin.
> > >> 
> > >> Thus, we have done so.
> > >> 
> > >> To iterate, there will be NO MEETING FOR LISP at IETF87.
> > >> 
> > >> We do apologise if this note causes you concern. However, as chairs we
> > >> must consider the LISP workgroup outputs on their merit, and at this 
> > >> stage
> > >> those outputs do not warrant using up agenda time.
> > >> 
> > >> If you would like to talk with us (the co-chairs) during IETF87, we are
> > >> happy to
> > >>  make hallway time to discuss ways of making progress on the WG chartered
> > >>  items.
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> LISP Co-Chairs
> > >> Joel and Terry
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> lisp mailing list
> > >> [email protected]
> > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp
> > > 
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