> "...But I would like to think we live in a world where people help things > that serve. " > > > Dino,really?
Yes - really. When you post an email like you did (and you do it repeatedly with little technical data), I have to respond that way. > By our last dispute a while ago I learnt that LISP does NOTHING to ease the > IPv4 And it never claimed to solve this problem. It you know what? It does help because you can use other address spaces to help the allocation of devices. So you can use IPv6 EIDs for site devices versus IPv4 addresses. Allowing more IPv4 addresses to be used for RLOCs and therefore be able to address more sites. > adress depletion issue (well, it rather eats up some extra addresses). > While by involving the user as well as the DNS (i.e. by mapping a FQDN to IPv4 How is LISP involving the user? > address + Locator) the IPv4 address space could easily do for another > thousand years (all it takes is to ensure that any IPv4-address is unique per > associated locator) LISP-DDT prevents that for good, and you make us believe > that LISP would be of any service to IPv4 ?! LISP-DDT is a database to move Map-Request around. It says nothing about how and how much address is allocated. > The bad thing is that very very precious time goes by while (naive) > people/observers trust in LISP on this respect. Because it is becoming proven in their experience. > Just like myself when I argued that LISP-DDT cannot work assuming that LISP > were after a 4+4 octet unicast address space extension. > > But you let all up to NAT. This is really not a serve. I cannot parse the above. Dino > > Sorry, > Heiner > (having nothing said about the dooming malicious/political problems yet) > > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- > Von: Dino Farinacci <[email protected]> > An: Damien Saucez <[email protected]> > Cc: heinerhummel <[email protected]>; lisp <[email protected]> > Verschickt: Sa, 6 Jul 2013 8:01 pm > Betreff: Re: [lisp] No LISP meeting for Berlin > > There are servers everywhere. Even not on the Internet. We leave in a world > of abuse. But I would like to think we live in a world where people help > things that serve. > > Dino > > > On Jul 6, 2013, at 4:21 AM, Damien Saucez <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> On 06 Jul 2013, at 11:58, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> My "Mass" for the LISP beer garden meeting: >>> >>> The LISP's dependency on special servers (DDT, formerly ALT) is a perfect >>> invitation for abuse - >>> either by malicious hackers or by malicious owners, or the alliance of >>> both. Who is able to control these servers is able to control internet >>> forwarding. >>> I can imagine that the RSA would like LISP very much. >>> >> >> Don't worry, before you traffic to be encapsulated by LISP you will use >> DNS... >> >> Damien Saucez >> >>> >>> Heiner >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> lisp mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lisp mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp
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