"...But I would like to think we live in a world where people help things that 
serve. "




Dino,really?


By our last dispute a while ago I learnt that LISP does NOTHING to ease the 
IPv4 adress depletion issue (well, it rather eats up some extra addresses).
While by involving the user as well as the DNS (i.e. by mapping a FQDN to IPv4 
address + Locator) the IPv4 address space could easily do for another thousand 
years (all it takes is to ensure that any IPv4-address is unique per associated 
locator) LISP-DDT prevents that for good, and you make us believe that LISP 
would be of any service to IPv4 ?!


The bad thing is that very very precious time goes by while (naive) 
people/observers trust in LISP on this respect.
Just like myself when I argued that LISP-DDT cannot work assuming that LISP 
were after a 4+4 octet unicast address space extension.


But you let all up to NAT. This is really not a serve.


Sorry,
Heiner
 (having nothing said about the dooming malicious/political problems yet)










-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- 
Von: Dino Farinacci <[email protected]>
An: Damien Saucez <[email protected]>
Cc: heinerhummel <[email protected]>; lisp <[email protected]>
Verschickt: Sa, 6 Jul 2013 8:01 pm
Betreff: Re: [lisp] No LISP meeting for Berlin



There are servers everywhere. Even not on the Internet. We leave in a world of 
abuse. But I would like to think we live in a world where people help things 
that serve. 


Dino 



On Jul 6, 2013, at 4:21 AM, Damien Saucez <[email protected]> wrote:





On 06 Jul 2013, at 11:58, [email protected] wrote:


My "Mass" for the LISP beer garden meeting:

The LISP's dependency on special servers (DDT, formerly ALT) is a perfect 
invitation for abuse  - 
either by malicious hackers or by malicious owners, or the alliance of both. 
Who is able to control these servers is able to control  internet forwarding.
I can imagine that the RSA would like LISP very much.





Don't worry, before you traffic to be encapsulated by LISP you will use DNS...


Damien Saucez





Heiner
  


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