Joel,

The main advantages are:
* You can use the same subnet/prefix in both sites
* there is optimised ingress routing from remote LISP enabled sites
towards the right destination

Yves

On 12/02/14 18:12, "Joel M. Halpern" <[email protected]> wrote:

>that this describes an existing usage is clearly very important.
>
>It seems that if the scale of the VPN is small enough that manually
>configured IPSec tunnels can be used, then LISP does not provide a lot
>of advantage.  If it is automated tunnels, there seems to be a need to
>coordinate the two systems.  What am I missing?
>
>Thanks,
>Joel
>
>On 2/12/14, 12:04 PM, Fabio Maino wrote:
>> Hi Joel,
>> This describes how LISP is used today in combination with IPsec
>> (typically GDOI is used to simplify key distribution).
>>
>> I think Dino's work is more forward looking, with two main goals: (1)
>> combine encryption with the LISP dataplane, for a more efficient
>> encoding on the wire, (2) take advantage of the LISP mapping system (and
>> possibly of some of the mechanisms in LISP-SEC) for key
>> derivation/distribution
>>
>> Fabio
>>
>>
>> On 2/12/14, 8:54 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
>>> This draft seems to expect that IPSec tunnels will be set up by means
>>> outside of LISP.  That seems to contravene the premise of LISp that it
>>> can operate without needing permanent / pre-established tunnel state.
>>>
>>> Should this be tied to the work Dino described at the last IETF
>>> meeting on using LISP to establish encryption for the LISP tunnel?
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>> Joel
>>>
>>> On 2/12/14, 6:22 AM, Santiago Freitas (safreita) wrote:
>>>> Hi LISP Working Group,
>>>>
>>>> Today we have submitted a draft that covers using LISP for Secure
>>>>Hybrid
>>>> Cloud Extension.
>>>>
>>>> The draft can be found at
>>>> 
>>>>http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-freitas-bellagamba-lisp-hybrid-cloud-useca
>>>>se-00.txt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We would like to request your comments on it.
>>>>
>>>> Also, we would like request a small slot on the upcoming IETF 89
>>>>meeting
>>>> to present an overview of the use case covered on the draft.
>>>>
>>>> We look forward to your comments and for your feedback if we can have
>>>>a
>>>> small slot to present an overview of this draft on IETF 89.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Patrice and Santiago
>>>>
>>
>>

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