I think taht using the same subnet/prefix simply amounts to having /32 routes in the edge devices. Also, there are other known mechanisms (L2VPN extension) which achieve that goal.
Having said that, it is a useful goal and one LISP helps with.

I do not see why the routing is any more optimal than any of the other tunnel management mechanisms.

Yours,
Joel

On 2/12/14, 12:18 PM, Yves Hertoghs (yhertogh) wrote:
Joel,

The main advantages are:
* You can use the same subnet/prefix in both sites
* there is optimised ingress routing from remote LISP enabled sites
towards the right destination

Yves

On 12/02/14 18:12, "Joel M. Halpern" <[email protected]> wrote:

that this describes an existing usage is clearly very important.

It seems that if the scale of the VPN is small enough that manually
configured IPSec tunnels can be used, then LISP does not provide a lot
of advantage.  If it is automated tunnels, there seems to be a need to
coordinate the two systems.  What am I missing?

Thanks,
Joel

On 2/12/14, 12:04 PM, Fabio Maino wrote:
Hi Joel,
This describes how LISP is used today in combination with IPsec
(typically GDOI is used to simplify key distribution).

I think Dino's work is more forward looking, with two main goals: (1)
combine encryption with the LISP dataplane, for a more efficient
encoding on the wire, (2) take advantage of the LISP mapping system (and
possibly of some of the mechanisms in LISP-SEC) for key
derivation/distribution

Fabio


On 2/12/14, 8:54 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
This draft seems to expect that IPSec tunnels will be set up by means
outside of LISP.  That seems to contravene the premise of LISp that it
can operate without needing permanent / pre-established tunnel state.

Should this be tied to the work Dino described at the last IETF
meeting on using LISP to establish encryption for the LISP tunnel?

Yours,
Joel

On 2/12/14, 6:22 AM, Santiago Freitas (safreita) wrote:
Hi LISP Working Group,

Today we have submitted a draft that covers using LISP for Secure
Hybrid
Cloud Extension.

The draft can be found at

http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-freitas-bellagamba-lisp-hybrid-cloud-useca
se-00.txt


We would like to request your comments on it.

Also, we would like request a small slot on the upcoming IETF 89
meeting
to present an overview of the use case covered on the draft.

We look forward to your comments and for your feedback if we can have
a
small slot to present an overview of this draft on IETF 89.

Sincerely,

Patrice and Santiago






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