It is not a LISP versus BGP comparison we need to do. Because if we did that, 
then we would have to compare LISP with mobile-IP, IPsec, DNS, and other 
similar features that overlap.

Plus there are enivronments where LISP is used where BGP doesn't exist, so how 
could we compare.

Dino

On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Ronald Bonica <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dino,
> 
> You have a very good point! 
> 
> In order to help the reader understand the difference between LISP and BGP, 
> it might be a good idea to add a few pages that compare and contrast the two. 
> It should answer the following questions:
> 
> - In BGP, how does the producer of a route know that it is time to push it
> - In LISP, how does the consumer of a route know that it is time to pull it
> - In BGP, what happens when the control path between the producer and 
> consumer of a route becomes degraded or unusable
> - In LISP, what happens when the control path between the producer and 
> consumer of a route becomes degraded or unusable
> 
>                                                                               
>                     Ron
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dino Farinacci [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 5:07 PM
>> To: Ronald Bonica
>> Cc: LISP mailing list list
>> Subject: Re: [lisp] draft-ietf-lisp-introduction-04 (Part 3)
>> 
>> 
>>> LISP is different from GRE and L3VPN because it pulls mapping information
>> to itself. By contrast, GRE mapping information is generally configured
>> statically. L3VPN mapping information is pushed by BGP. Therefore, LISP
>> must deal with the problems of stale mapping information and cache misses.
>> Also, LISP must deal with the problem of egress encapsulation node liveness.
>> 
>> Ron, I have to keep you honest here. It doesn't matter if you pull or push,
>> ANY information that is distributed can be stale.
>> 
>> If a route changes in BGP and there is a congested path and the Update is
>> continually being retransmitted by TCP to get to the BGP peer, that BGP peer
>> has stale information.
>> 
>> Dino
> 

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