> would also say that if we are to help implement  overlays with the lisp 
> mapping architecture, then we could expect any overlay aggregation node to 
> subscribe to any traffic identifiers/classifiers 
> - unicast, multicast.g, taps, chain.index.. and to the mappings them selves

Yes, definitely agree. And the lisp-subscription ID reflects that.

Note to WG, this draft is about to be published soon.

> Doesn't mean they get it, may be other policies in place, both in the mapping 
> and in the itr, but xtr can subscribe by essence of overlays - logical not 
> topological connectionless traffic forwarding over IP.

Right. 

Dino

> 
> --szb
> 
> On Aug 15, 2015, at 3:03 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> The logic follows like this:
>> 
>> If NVo3 is a requirement for the recharter, then L2 overlay support is 
>> required. If L2 overlay support is required, then you must stretch subnets. 
>> If you stretch subnets, broadcast frame support is required. If broadcast 
>> frame support is needed, then multicast support on the overlay is needed. 
>> 
>> And if L2 overlays are going to be supported in cloud environments, homenet, 
>> or in containers, then NAT-traversal support is required. 
>> 
>> Dino
>> 
>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Damien Saucez <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I understand that multicast and nat traversal are potentially required in 
>>> all use cases, but the "must support" sounds extreme to me. Are they 
>>> hypothetical requirements or real demand from the market targeted by LISP, 
>>> new version ?
>>> 
>>> Damien Saucez 
>>> 
>>> On 12 Aug 2015, at 19:44, Stig Venaas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 12, 2015 10:22 AM, "Dino Farinacci" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes, where but multicast sources as well as multicast receivers are 
>>>> > moving. There are severl military applications for this use-case.
>>>> 
>>>> Agree
>>>> 
>>>> Stig
>>>> 
>>>> >
>>>> > Dino
>>>> >
>>>> > > On Aug 12, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Stig Venaas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I agree we need to consider multicast. There are people that want to 
>>>> > > do multicast over LISP. Some are already doing it. This also includes 
>>>> > > mobility.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Stig
>>>> >
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