On 1/12/18 8:20 AM, Albert Cabellos wrote:
Hi all

As editor of 6830bis I´d like to confirm or deny the following changes which I believe have support.

Please note that I have intentionally ignored minor/editorial changes to help sync all the participants. I hope that the list below captures the most relevant ones.

Also note that I don´t necessarily agree with all the changes listed below, but that´s an opinion with a different hat.

WG: Please CONFIRM or DENY:

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A.- Remove definitions of PA and PI
confirm.

I think one of the goals of the charter was to to open up to a broad set of use cases where that terminology might not be meaningful.


B.- Change definitions of EID and RLOC as ‘identifier of the overlay’ and ‘identifier of the underlay’ respectively.

personally, I'm not keen to this change of terminology.

EID and RLOC have become of common use, and well understood, even outside of the LISP circles. I've often assisted to conversations in non-LISP groups where people use the term LISP EID/RLOC to qualify IP addresses in the overlay/underlay.



C.- In section 5.3, change the description of the encap/decap operation concerning how to deal with ECN and DSCP bits to (new text needs to be validated by experts):

    When doing ITR/PITR encapsulation:

    o  The outer-header 'Time to Live' field (or 'Hop Limit' field, in
    the case of IPv6) SHOULD be copied from the inner-header 'Time to
    Live' field.

    o  The outer-header 'Differentiated Services Code Point' (DSCP)
    field (or the 'Traffic Class' field, in the case of IPv6) SHOULD
    be copied from the inner-header DSCP field ('Traffic Class' field,
    in the case of IPv6) considering the exception listed below.

    o  The 'Explicit Congestion Notification' (ECN) field (bits 6 and
    7 of the IPv6 'Traffic Class' field) requires special treatment in
    order to avoid discarding indications of congestion [RFC3168]. ITR
    encapsulation MUST copy the 2-bit 'ECN' field from the inner
    header to the outer header. Re-encapsulation MUST copy the 2-bit
    'ECN' field from the stripped outer header to the new outer header.

    When doing ETR/PETR decapsulation:

     o  The inner-header 'Time to Live' field (or 'Hop Limit' field,
    in the case of IPv6) SHOULD be copied from the outer-header 'Time
    to Live' field, when the Time to Live value of the outer header is
    less than the Time to Live value of the inner header.  Failing to
    perform this check can cause the Time to Live of the inner header
    to increment across encapsulation/decapsulation cycles.  This
    check is also performed when doing initial encapsulation, when a
    packet comes to an ITR or PITR destined for a LISP site.

    o  The inner-header 'Differentiated Services Code Point' (DSCP)
    field (or the 'Traffic Class' field, in the case of IPv6) SHOULD
    be copied from the outer-header DSCP field ('Traffic Class' field,
    in the case of IPv6) considering the exception listed below.

    o  The 'Explicit Congestion Notification' (ECN) field (bits 6 and
    7 of the IPv6 'Traffic Class' field) requires special treatment in
    order to avoid discarding indications of congestion [RFC3168]. If
    the 'ECN' field contains a congestion indication codepoint (the
    value is '11', the Congestion Experienced (CE) codepoint), then
    ETR decapsulation MUST copy the 2-bit 'ECN' field from the
    stripped outer header to the surviving inner header that is used
    to forward the packet beyond the ETR.  These requirements preserve
    CE indications when a packet that uses ECN traverses a LISP tunnel
    and becomes marked with a CE indication due to congestion between
    the tunnel endpoints.

    Note that if an ETR/PETR is also an ITR/PITR and chooses to
    re-encapsulate after decapsulating, the net effect of this is that
    the new outer header will carry the same Time to Live as the old
    outer header minus 1.

    Copying the Time to Live (TTL) serves two purposes: first, it
    preserves the distance the host intended the packet to travel;
    second, and more importantly, it provides for suppression of
    looping packets in the event there is a loop of concatenated
    tunnels due to misconfiguration.  See Section 18.3 for TTL
    exception handling for traceroute packets.


Confirm.


D.- Simplify section ‘Router Locator Selection’ stating that the data-plane MUST follow what´s stored in the map-cache (priorities and weights), the remaining text should go to an OAM document.
Confirm on the section semplification.

Wrt putting the rest in a separate OAM document, I don't have a strong opinion. Probably not having a new document requires less work to be done that makes me lean toward NOT having a new OAM document.


E.- Rewrite Section “Routing Locator Reachability” considering the following changes:

    *    Keep bullet point 1 (examine LSB), 6 (receiving a
    data-packet) and Echo-Nonce
    *    Move to 6833bis bullet point 2 (ICMP Network/Host
    Unreachable),3 (hints from BGP),4 (ICMP Port Unreachable),5
    (receive a Map-Reply as a response) and RLOC probing



Confirm.


F.- Move Solicit-Map-Request to 6833bis

Confirm.

G.- Move sections 16 (Mobility Considerations), 17 (xTR Placement Considerations), 18 (Traceroute Consideration) to a new OAM document


I'm fine with both options. Probably not having a new document requires less work to be done that makes me lean toward NOT having a new OAM document.


Thanks,
Fabio



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