I feel, but haven't received opinions from Bernhard or Bela, that there is a 
lot of text required for security reasons. So I would like to consider writing 
a new draft and introduce the bit in that draft. We can keep this draft 
experimental. Comments?

We can say its a protocol specification for the use-case documented in 
draft-haindl-lisp-gb-atn.

Dino

> On Apr 28, 2022, at 9:07 AM, Alvaro Retana <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> [WG participant hat on.]
> 
> Dino:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I agree that the behavior could be implementation-specific: just configure 
> both 
> sides.
> 
> It would be valuable to document it.  If it is an optional implementation 
> configuration and there are no bits involved, the specification could even go 
> in the current draft:
> 
>   An implementation MAY consider more specifics...more details...  
>   The xTRs and Map-Servers in the network MUST be explicitly configured 
>   if this optional functionality is used.
> 
>   This is an example of a possible deployment: [describe a case 
>   where a single message would be used -- doesn't have to be specific 
>   to ICAO's application].
> 
> 
> A couple of paragraphs should do it. ;-)
> 
> 
> My 2c,
> 
> Alvaro.
> 
> On April 26, 2022 at 5:32:52 PM, Dino Farinacci ([email protected]) wrote:
> 
>> > Interesting, there might be use-cases for that. Maybe that is something we 
>> > can work as an extension of the base PubSub, once the base spec is done? 
>> 
>> So from the discussion with the ICAO guys (Bela and Bernhard), they want a 
>> "more-specific" type processing of both Subscribe-Requests and 
>> Map-Registers. For example: 
>> 
>> (1) subcribe 10.1.1.1/32, 10.1.1.2/32, then unsubscribe for 10.1.1.0/24 
>> which unscribes all the more-specifics to 10.1.1.0. 
>> 
>> (2) Map-Register 10.1.1.1/32, 10.1.1.2/32, then deregister for 10.1.1.0/24 
>> which unscribes all the more-specifics to 10.1.1.0. 
>> 
>> We don't spec this out in either the pubsub or 6833bis and an implementation 
>> could do this with no new flag bits required, but if we wanted to standarize 
>> this a Map-Register and Map-Request would need a 
>> "process-all-more-specifics" flag bit. 
>> 
>> And, the aggregate that "undoes" all the more-specifics would have to use 
>> the same authentication key and signature used for all the specific 
>> registered. 
>> 
>> We are still discussing this privately. We took the discussion off the list, 
>> but I wanted to update everyone on the status of the discussion. 
>> 
>> Any comments? 
>> 
>> It is of my opinion, that this is a moderate protocol change but they need 
>> it so they can send one message rather than possibly more than one message 
>> with a list of specifics. And I am not sure we should update specs for this 
>> since an implementation can be configured on both the xTR side and the 
>> map-server side to do this functionality. 
>> 
>> Comments about documenting this? 
>> 
>> Dino 
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