On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 11:23:07PM -0400, Tim Pierce wrote:

> What they are claiming is permission to use messages posted on lists
> they host, and that you can't take this permission away from them.

They are claiming a good deal more than that (the right to create derivative
works in any and all media for starters).  I don't have a problem with them
setting up an agreement that gives them legal protection to provide the
service they're providing: distributing and archiving mailing list messages.
Unfortunately they are drawing a much wider circle than that.

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