At 5:47 PM -0500 2/16/2000, Tom Neff wrote:

>I know this intellectually, but somehow it still bugs me that whether
>they're sweethearts or A-holes, when you track down the truth about those
>complaints,

It bugs me, also -- so generally, I don't track it down or give 
myself reasons to get upset. separating the job function and the 
emotions is easier said than done, but it tends to reduce conflict a 
lot.

I used to see part of my job as educating users, the old "so that you 
don't hose over the next mailing list" schtick. These days, I'm just 
not convinced it's worth the time or hassle, and I"m not sure what 
good it does -- and you're arguing with someone who's generally not 
all that receptive to the feedback in the first place. Why get ulcers 
over it?

So I generally keep my mouth shut, sit on my hands or whatever. As 
bill cosby once said, parents don't want justice, they want quiet. 
I've gone from justice and the american way to quiet.

And I've found most users don't want excuses or reasons. They simply 
want results. I can't say I blame them. So I try to comply. Maybe I'm 
getting old or something, but things I used to take really seriously 
just aren't worth fighting over any more. Or perhaps I'm finally 
getting a sense of perspective, I dunno.

I used to think it was important to try to work out usage issues with 
users -- now, I tend to be a lot more likely to just blow a user off 
the system and argue about it later. I've had too many trolls play 
games looking for just where they can draw lines in the sand. An 
occasional person who just doesn't get it quickyl sometimes gets 
burned, but mostly, I just don't waste time with trolls any more, and 
I don't spend a lot of time explaining to users like the "I've been 
trying for months..." -- because neither side really cares about 
anything but resolution. So I resolve.

>Just to make myself clear: I am under no illusions that these resources,
>even if prominently mentioned in the welcomes and FAQs for lists, will make
>a significant dent in USER ignorance.

I think it does, actually. But it's the old problem of how to judge 
how well education works on usenet: you only see the failures.

>It is the specter of a MANAGER coming here and
>posting "I heard something about a modem tax..." that makes me want to
>re-cite those resources weekly.

um, where I work, it happens. And usually, the poor, well-meaning 
person is well educated, quite quickly. And you smell the smoke 
coming out of what used to be their cube....

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And they sit at the bar and put bread in my jar
and say 'Man, what are you doing here?'"

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