At 7:51 PM -0500 2/21/2000, John R Levine wrote:

>I don't want to rekindle the single vs. multiple delivery war (also known as
>the qmail vs. sendmail war) again, but if you can avoid a preconception that
>single deliveries are bad, they have enormous advantages for list management.


Definitely. And the system I'm working on will allow for full 
mail-merge capability, not just VERPing. So I can load a list of 
addresses into it, or a full tab-delimited dataset. At some point, I 
guess it stops being a mail list, or supercedes it or something.

>VERP, per-receipient envelope addresses, makes it possible to automate nearly
>all bounce management, and putting the recipient address in the body of the
>message makes it possible to handle most of the others, even from MTAs that
>smash the headers and envelope beyond recognition.

Yeah. Disk and CPU is basically dirt cheap now, and the advantages to 
going to a fully-individualized system is amazing. I wouldn't do it 
the way Lyris did -- if you can do that, why not simply put in a URL 
with the unsubscribe info already encoded. I already do that in my 
Welcome messages, and it's been quite useful and popular, and cuts a 
lot of struggling.

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