On 06:54 AM 2/8/01, Charlie Summers wrote:

 >   Since it's apparent from the messages in the last digest issue that I'm
 >regrettably in the wrong place, any chance someone clueful might point me in
 >the right direction and tell me where I might find a list that _can_ help
 >real list admins deal with the many modern challenges facing us?

I don't think your conclusion is apparent at all.  In fact, I think your 
conclusion is completely backwards.  This list is exactly the right place 
for list policy questions that span all types of list, and we have had some 
wonderful threads on this topic since I joined (last August).  This list is 
exactly the right place for "what list server should I use" questions.  If 
you are already using a specific list server, then a list tailored to that 
software package is probably the best and appropriate place for specific 
questions about that software.  But even then, don't expect every list 
software list to be busy, I'm on the "listmanager" software discussion list 
and it's damn quiet most of the time.  This list is NOT the place to hang 
out and chitchat.

I *love* this list.  I've been mostly lurking for a while (received 213 
messages, replied to 3 of them).  This list goes in spurts, with lots of 
discussion then lots of quiet time simply because no one has posted 
anything that needs discussing.  When I first joined, there were 2 posts 
that day, then 2 weeks with no posts at all.  Then there was a thread of 6 
posts in 3 days on a single topic.  There was a single post (no followups) 
4 days later, then quiet again for another 6 days.  Then there was a sudden 
spurt, over 20 posts in 2 days (discussing the article at 
<http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20000820.html>).  And so on.  Quiet, then 
bursty traffic when there is something to discuss.  (Like now :-)

I would say that one "list rule" that is 100% applied to ALL lists is that 
one should never post and whine that there "isn't a plethora of other posts 
whizzing by that I can read and just lurk".  That is just plain rude.  You 
should never jump on a list and then complain to the list that the list 
doesn't meet some poorly defined need of yours, first because you might be 
100% wrong about the list (because you haven't been patient enough to find 
out what the list is about) and second because the list is obviously 
meeting the needs of its present subscribers and users.  If you need to 
have something answered, post and ask!  Otherwise just be patient, and see 
what the list does, and watch and read and learn.  Only after you have 
figured out how a list works (which is rarely something you can do after 
only a week or two) would you be in a sound position to discuss the meta 
issue of how the list works.

jc  (list manager for 2 years, presently managing a busy 1100 user ISP 
industry list on majordomo, a 500 user hobby list on majordomo, a 100 user 
geek humor list on listmanager, and about to take on a hobby list of ~500 
novice users and migrate it to mailman, and start an industry list of ~125 
advanced users also on mailman)




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