| Calling it "double opt-in" accepts the spammer thesis that any address | they capture by any mechanism is an initial "opting in."
Hardly, Roger. First, receiving a subscription request and allowing that it actually may have come from the address on it is not "capture." It's not the same as, nor even comparable to, going about sniffing for addresses or buying CD-ROMs of them. You used my personal address by carboning your post to it; can one say that you "captured" my address because a post I made under it arrived via your subscription to this list? Second, the subscriber who completes the procedure by confirming truly has made two choices in favor of joining: one to subscribe and one to confirm. Someone who voluntarily starts the subscription process but declines or neglects to confirm has made only one choice in favor of being on the list, and one is not enough. Somebody whose subscription request was forged will refuse to confirm and has thus made no such choices; none are not enough either. It takes two. Anybody who confirms either truly sent the initial subscription request or agrees with its having been sent.
