Good Call.

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--- Dan Blackman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Daniel,
> 
> I am not following you with this implementation of
> the MVC Design
> Pattern.  ColdFusion is not a Presentation Server by
> any means.  CF and
> JAVA can work hand in hand to implement MVC but I am
> not sure why you
> describe CF as handling ANY presentation at all. 
> Your presentation
> layer is handled through FLASH MX or HTML.  You can
> use CFC's and or
> Java servlets to handle your Controller and Model
> Layers, but CF and
> JAVA are server based programming languages.  
> 
> With CF, we architect solutions to separate the CF
> from ANY Front End
> functionality, albeit it does have the capabilities
> of rendering
> graph's, etc.  
> 
> Any how, I look forward to any response because I am
> curious as to how
> you came up with this concept of CF as a
> Presentation server.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Daniel Elmore
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:42 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Where: Java with ColdFusion
> 
> 
> I think the big picture is that ColdFusion is meant
> to be your
> presentation server. In the MVC design pattern,
> ColdFusion would
> generate your Views, then Java would work nicely as
> the Model for the
> business logic, and then you could use something
> like Mach-II or Fusebox
> as the Controller. I think Macromedia has made this
> especially clear
> with the new features of Blackstone. Notice all the
> focus and work was
> put into forms and reports and graphs, while
> virtually nothing has
> changed with CFC's. ColdFusion is still lacking much
> to handle true OOP
> and it doesn't look like Macromedia intents to
> change this.
> 
> -Daniel Elmore
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of PC Carraway
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Where: Java with ColdFusion
> 
> I don't know if this is a can of worms, but where
> would you use Java
> with 
> CF?  I could see it used to create a more indepth
> CFFile custom tag, but
> I'm
> 
> would like to know where it could be used on a
> larger scale such as an 
> application. 
> 
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