Hosting is very important to a ColdFusion discussion.  Without it, there
would be no ColdFusion.

I just got a reply from accounting at The Planet from what happened almost
two weeks ago at the planet.  They are claiming it was during the
maintenance window and are not standing by their 100% uptime SLA.  

I have informed them that 3-8:00 PM is not the maintenance window.  Also,
they claim to not have one point of failure by using redundant connections
and power.  If this was true, they wouldn't never be down as not one router
would be directing traffic to your cage.  So apparently this was a lie.

They also say you need proof of down time.  I have had multiple support
tickets closed in the last month by their technicians with my ping and
tracert's in them.  However, accounting says you have to report to them in
10 days.  I have my proof turned into them and they have it, yet they will
not stick to their SLA.  

Therefore I would say that they are not an honest company and do not honor
their contracts.  I have given them what they wanted in the time period they
asked for and they will still not honor their SLA.

I have a contract with them and they are not honoring it.  If your at the
Planet, I suggest you leave as soon as possible, as they can turn off your
connection to the internet and refuse to pay, no matter if you send them
proof or not.  Their people keep the stance that you do not have proof.
Then when you give them proof, they do nothing still.  They did however
close this ticket with my ping and tracert's in them.

I'm sure this planned maintenance was planned, an hour after it happened
they sent an email to each other and agreed it was planned.

They also say I'm in a contract and cannot leave.  I'm gathering people for
a class action lawsuit against the Planet for failing to uphold their
contracts.  If your interested, please email me off list.  We cannot allow
people to rip us off.  Promise something, then not stick to it.

I'm done and calling a lawyer.

Jacob
Jacob Cameron
Blue Lantern, Inc.
(972) 226-9595
cell: (972) 679-8020
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.blue-lantern.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Clement Cervenka
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: The latest news from The Planet

Ferg,

    After reading this posting, I was wondering if you have thourgh about
this from the search engine submission procures with regards to developing
your CF software program?

    When any type of website is completed and sub-mitted to the 20 major
search engines
(google,-yahoo,etc.) where each individual inhouse search engine dept. will
review that website content using their own inhouse standards, ranging
anywhere from 15 to 30 checkpoint standards (sex,violence,etc.) are used to
establish this coding. Think of this webcoding as an movie rating system
currently used at the movies.

    Based upon this inhouse process, then several coding # are assigned and
attached within that particular website identify tags and other related
taging areas. At this point, that particular website is then hosted and
"goes live". Pleae bear in mind that it takes anywhere between 4 to 6 months
for any newly released website to generate any desent public traffic to that
particular website. 

     Sorry for the length backgroud, but I wanted to be sure that you were
aware of the frontend coding process already in usage. When designing this
CF content scanning idea, couldn't someone design the program to fit within
the allready existing pipeline submitting process? This program could be
either an software or server side application uage. I have also noted some
additional features that you might want to include also;

Develop an unified set of standards for reviewing and coding each website
content within the US market only.

Develop an unified set of in house enforcement polices and procedures with
regards to denial of access or services within the US market only.

Develop an unified set of "key words or phrases" in various languages for
standards practices within the US market only.

Develop an unified set of "picture or video actions"
in various languages for standards practices within the US market only.

    Their are currently several companies that are development this type of
software packages, an few will be available by next summer according to
several net/web postings. I have even hear that an beta verious is currently
being tested from India of all places, go figure.

joe










    



--- Ken Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I'd honestly like to hear peoples' ideas on the value of the type of 
> application in question and how they'd go about building it. Now, if 
> anyone has any comments on that subject, I'd really like to hear about 
> them. If you're not personally interested in that topic, feel very 
> free to wait for a thread in which you are interested.
> 
> If you would have taken just a couple of seconds to read the rest of 
> both of my last posts, I've attempted to reply to people and then pull 
> the topic back on course by speculating on something that could be 
> built (in cf???) to accomplish a goal.
> 
> Oh, by the way, your post that touched off this exchange -- very 
> ColdFusion specific. Way to demonstrate your stated preferences there 
> Jack, strong work indeed.
> 
> --Ferg
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jack Lavender
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: The latest news from The Planet
> 
> There was nothing poorly thought out or uneducated in my comment.
> 
> I would prefer that this list be Coldfusion specifics, but you were 
> the one who deigned the list could be used to tell us what you think 
> thePlanet should do and how you feel about the whole thing.
> Then we get the
> retoric
> about it having nothing to do with freedom speech punctuated with your 
> "personal" views on how a business should handle it.  I would suppose 
> that thePlanet is doing business per their rules and just like every 
> business in this country they will follow the state and federal laws.
> 
> jack
> 
> 
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:47:55 -0600, Ken Ferguson wrote
> > It has nothing at all to do with freedom of
> speech. It has to do with
> > whether a company wants to do business with the
> speaker. Also,
> > nowhere in any sane person's mind does the right
> to freedom of
> > speech extend to inciting violence. I hate the
> poorly thought out,
> > uneducated snapback of "they have the right to say
> it; who are you
> > to stop them?" Well, if I'm a hosting company, I'm
> the one who owns
> > the servers and that's who I am to stop them. I
> might not want that
> > on my machines or bandwidth. I might not want my
> business hurt by
> > the negative attention and publicity. I might not
> want my customers
> > calling up threatening to go elsewhere because I
> allow that type of
> > thing to reside on my network.
> > 
> > Now, to put this back on the topic of CF, does
> anyone have any real
> > ideas on how best to go about building such an
> application, building
> > a sort of indexing engine like this?  We've all
> built search engines
> > for sites we've done through database full-text
> indexing or Verity
> > or whatever, but has anyone done a wide search
> application tasked
> > with indexing whole networks of sites. Maybe it's
> something that's
> > got to be done with something like the Google
> appliance or some
> > such. Any thoughts, ideas...?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Jack Lavender
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:50 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: The latest news from The Planet
> > 
> > Hmmmm, much agree "objectionable material" can be
> dangerous.  Perhaps
> > you
> > should help the world out and make something
> happen.  I am sure your
> > view on
> > freedom of speech will make the world much safer.
> > 
> > jackal
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Ken Ferguson
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:00 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: The latest news from The Planet
> > 
> > My idea though, is a simple application that a
> host could use to scan
> > their own networks for objectionable material.
> Then hosts like The
> > Planet couldn't say it's too difficult or too
> expensive to police the
> > content on all of our customers' sites...
> > 
> > --Ferg
> > 
> >
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