I reformatted my machine and really tried to switch to DW,
I used it for a full week, which included about 80 hours of development.
However, I had to move back to homesite+ for a few reasons:
1) When I tried to open remote files, it
FTP'ed down the images associated with it. I was using design view,
so I didn't need the images, and since I always code with
includes design view doesn't work anyway. My HTML's here at the
office hate that I use header and footer because dreamweaver doesn't render the
pages when it's just HTML in them.
I would prefer one of two things: 1) It doesn't
try to read the includes unless it can interpret them, 2) It just renders
the part is understands an ignores the coldFusion, so a lamon can change the
text without having to know HTML.
Instead, it does a blend of the two and outputs garbage to
the design view and messes up the code because it thinks it is cleaning it up
but it cannot interpret CF.
2) There is no find up!!!!!!! This was my
biggest problem with dreamweaver. You know when your in notepad and you do
a find and you have a find up or down option? Or in homesite, or any any
other program on the face of the earth that allows searching? Now open
Dreamweaver and notice the find window has a lot more options than any other
program, but they took out find up (or I can't find
it)!!!!!!!!!
When I have a variable and I want to find where it is
assigned up in the page and I'm in a 1400 line page, I don't want to search the
entire thing, I want the last time this variable was set to something up to
where I am.
Therefore I could not use Dreamweaver from a coding or
WYSIWYG stand point. Good thing they shipped homesite+ with Macromedia
Studio or I would have returned my copy.
However, Dreamweaver is a little better than VS.NET if
you are using ASP 3.0, that a lot of my clients still have sites written
in. Open an .ASP file and type in "request." in both DW and .NET
you'll have options there, choose querystring.
VS.NET gives you:
request.querystring
DW gives you:
request.querystring(
And a tooltip to tell you want goes next! Very
helpful.
I switch between CF, ASP, and PHP all the time. The
only tool I have found that works with all three well is homesite+ or ColdFusion
Studio. If they would stick a find back into Dreamweaver then I could use
it as it supports all three. As I normally have homesite, outlook,
fireworks or Photoshop, IE, Firefox, and an FTP client open at the same
time, and I switch from ASP to PHP, then back to CF all the time, I don't have
the patience to wait for more than one editing tool to open.
If anyone knows a tool that has tooltips and such for all
three languages like dreamweaver does and has a back button please let me
know.
Desperately seeking a tool!
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jordan Gouger
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CF IDE
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CF IDE
Well I do a lot of development in vb.net as well as CF, and one of the
things that I really like about VS.net is that you actually have a true WYSIWIG
editor on there, where the controls that are placed in design view are exactly
as they appear in the compiled application. I also find that the most
aggrivating thing about working with CF is the lack of a real-time syntax
checker, as VS.net and most Java IDEs have. Besides these to is the lack of
Dreamweaver to recognize an application framework behind other pages, without
using live design view. These are probably my biggest grievances, but
there are many others.
When Macromedia bought out Allaire back in the day, they for whatever
reason decided to phase out homesite / CF Studio and try to integrate
homesite with dreamweaver. This did not work out very well, as dreamweaver
simply doesn't do enough to satisfy the hard-core coder, but it is a great
middle ground. I could argue for hours over how much better Cold Fusion is over
classic ASP and even ASP.net, but the fact of the matter still remains that
ASP.net is widely accepted and easy to work with thanks in part to the power of
VS.net. I think that Macromedia could compete head-to-head with .net if they
possesed an IDE that was comparable to its competition.
Matt Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Can you elaborate on specifically what capabilities of Visual Studio?
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:39:58 -0800 (PST), Jordan Gouger
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a CF IDE that has the capabilities of Visual Studio.net
> and the HTML / layout capabilites of Dreamweaver? If not, if there are any
> really skilled java or .net developers in the group that might be interested
> in putting something like that together. Please let me know as I think that
> it if it can be pulled of, it would be a huge asset to the CF community.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jordan
>
>
>
>
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