Thanks Clint, I'll give it a try. If it makes my life easier, I'll buy it.
Jacob -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Tredway Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 9:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CF IDE My favorite tool is PrimalScript. The only thing missing from Jacob's request list is tooltips. On a daily basis I write CFC's, java, actionscript, mxml(Flex) and SQL and PrimalScript does it all. On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:04:49 -0600, Jacob Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I reformatted my machine and really tried to switch to DW, I used it > for a full week, which included about 80 hours of development. > However, I had to move back to homesite+ for a few reasons: > > 1) When I tried to open remote files, it FTP'ed down the images > associated with it. I was using design view, so I didn't need the > images, and since I always code with includes design view doesn't work > anyway. My HTML's here at the office hate that I use header and > footer because dreamweaver doesn't render the pages when it's just HTML in them. > > I would prefer one of two things: 1) It doesn't try to read the > includes unless it can interpret them, 2) It just renders the part is > understands an ignores the coldFusion, so a lamon can change the text > without having to know HTML. > Instead, it does a blend of the two and outputs garbage to the design > view and messes up the code because it thinks it is cleaning it up but > it cannot interpret CF. > > 2) There is no find up!!!!!!! This was my biggest problem with > dreamweaver. You know when your in notepad and you do a find and you > have a find up or down option? Or in homesite, or any any other > program on the face of the earth that allows searching? Now open > Dreamweaver and notice the find window has a lot more options than any > other program, but they took out find up (or I can't find it)!!!!!!!!! > When I have a variable and I want to find where it is assigned up in > the page and I'm in a 1400 line page, I don't want to search the > entire thing, I want the last time this variable was set to something up to where I am. > > Therefore I could not use Dreamweaver from a coding or WYSIWYG stand point. > Good thing they shipped homesite+ with Macromedia Studio or I would > have returned my copy. > > However, Dreamweaver is a little better than VS.NET if you are using > ASP 3.0, that a lot of my clients still have sites written in. Open > an .ASP file and type in "request." in both DW and .NET you'll have > options there, choose querystring. > VS.NET gives you: request.querystring DW gives you: > request.querystring( And a tooltip to tell you want goes next! Very > helpful. > > I switch between CF, ASP, and PHP all the time. The only tool I have > found that works with all three well is homesite+ or ColdFusion > Studio. If they would stick a find back into Dreamweaver then I could > use it as it supports all three. As I normally have homesite, > outlook, fireworks or Photoshop, IE, Firefox, and an FTP client open > at the same time, and I switch from ASP to PHP, then back to CF all > the time, I don't have the patience to wait for more than one editing tool to open. > > If anyone knows a tool that has tooltips and such for all three > languages like dreamweaver does and has a back button please let me know. > > Desperately seeking a tool! > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jordan Gouger > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CF IDE > > > > > Well I do a lot of development in vb.net as well as CF, and one of the > things that I really like about VS.net is that you actually have a > true WYSIWIG editor on there, where the controls that are placed in > design view are exactly as they appear in the compiled application. I > also find that the most aggrivating thing about working with CF is the > lack of a real-time syntax checker, as VS.net and most Java IDEs have. > Besides these to is the lack of Dreamweaver to recognize an > application framework behind other pages, without using live design > view. These are probably my biggest grievances, but there are many others. > > When Macromedia bought out Allaire back in the day, they for whatever > reason decided to phase out homesite / CF Studio and try to integrate > homesite with dreamweaver. This did not work out very well, as > dreamweaver simply doesn't do enough to satisfy the hard-core coder, > but it is a great middle ground. I could argue for hours over how much > better Cold Fusion is over classic ASP and even ASP.net, but the fact > of the matter still remains that ASP.net is widely accepted and easy to work with thanks in part to the power of VS.net. > I think that Macromedia could compete head-to-head with .net if they > possesed an IDE that was comparable to its competition. > > > Matt Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you elaborate on specifically what capabilities of Visual Studio? > > > On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:39:58 -0800 (PST), Jordan Gouger > wrote: > > > > Does anyone know of a CF IDE that has the capabilities of Visual > Studio.net > > and the HTML / layout capabilites of Dreamweaver? If not, if there > > are any really skilled java or .net developers in the group that > > might be > interested > > in putting something like that together. Please let me know as I > > think > that > > it if it can be pulled of, it would be a huge asset to the CF community. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jordan > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Matt Woodward > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.mattwoodward.com > ---------------------------------------------------------- > To post, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: > http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberUnsubscribe.cfm > To subscribe: > http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberRegistration.cfm > > > > > > > -- My Blog http://tredway.kgbinternet.com/blog/ ---------------------------------------------------------- To post, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberUnsubscribe.cfm To subscribe: http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberRegistration.cfm ---------------------------------------------------------- To post, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberUnsubscribe.cfm To subscribe: http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberRegistration.cfm
