Fyi,
I heard of a program that is supposed to be an extremely good IDE for PHP. I haven't tinker around with very much, as I don't do very much PHP development, but I do know that it has an integrated PHP server and I believe that it has real-time syntax checking as well. Its called PhpEd By nusphere
Jordan
Clint Tredway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Clint Tredway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My favorite tool is PrimalScript. The only thing missing from Jacob's
request list is tooltips.
On a daily basis I write CFC's, java, actionscript, mxml(Flex) and SQL
and PrimalScript does it all.
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:04:49 -0600, Jacob Cameron
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> I reformatted my machine and really tried to switch to DW, I used it for a
> full week, which included about 80 hours of development. However, I had to
> move back to homesite+ for a few reasons:
>
> 1) When I tried to open remote files, it FTP'ed down the images associated
> with it. I was using design view, so I didn't need the images, and since I
> always code with includes design view doesn't work anyway. My HTML's here
> at the office hate that I use header and footer because dreamweaver doesn't
> render the pages when it's just HTML in them.
>
> I would prefer one of two things: 1) It doesn't try to read the includes
> unless it can interpret them, 2) It just renders the part is understands an
> ignores the coldFusion, so a lamon can change the text without having to
> know HTML.
> Instead, it does a blend of the two and outputs garbage to the design view
> and messes up the code because it thinks it is cleaning it up but it cannot
> interpret CF.
>
> 2) There is no find up!!!!!!! This was my biggest problem with
> dreamweaver. You know when your in notepad and you do a find and you have a
> find up or down option? Or in homesite, or any any other program on the
> face of the earth that allows searching? Now open Dreamweaver and notice
> the find window has a lot more options than any other program, but they took
> out find up (or I can't find it)!!!!!!!!!
> When I have a variable and I want to find where it is assigned up in the
> page and I'm in a 1400 line page, I don't want to search the entire thing, I
> want the last time this variable was set to something up to where I am.
>
> Therefore I could not use Dreamweaver from a coding or WYSIWYG stand point.
> Good thing they shipped homesite+ with Macromedia Studio or I would have
> returned my copy.
>
> However, Dreamweaver is a little better than VS.NET if you are using ASP
> 3.0, that a lot of my clients still have sites written in. Open an .ASP
> file and type in "request." in both DW and .NET you'll have options there,
> choose querystring.
> VS.NET gives you: request.querystring
> DW gives you: request.querystring(
> And a tooltip to tell you want goes next! Very helpful.
>
> I switch between CF, ASP, and PHP all the time. The only tool I have found
> that works with all three well is homesite+ or ColdFusion Studio. If they
> would stick a find back into Dreamweaver then I could use it as it supports
> all three. As I normally have homesite, outlook, fireworks or Photoshop,
> IE, Firefox, and an FTP client open at the same time, and I switch from ASP
> to PHP, then back to CF all the time, I don't have the patience to wait for
> more than one editing tool to open.
>
> If anyone knows a tool that has tooltips and such for all three languages
> like dreamweaver does and has a back button please let me know.
>
> Desperately seeking a tool!
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Jordan Gouger
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:43 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CF IDE
>
>
>
>
> Well I do a lot of development in vb.net as well as CF, and one of the
> things that I really like about VS.net is that you actually have a true
> WYSIWIG editor on there, where the controls that are placed in design view
> are exactly as they appear in the compiled application. I also find that the
> most aggrivating thing about working with CF is the lack of a real-time
> syntax checker, as VS.net and most Java IDEs have. Besides these to is the
> lack of Dreamweaver to recognize an application framework behind other
> pages, without using live design view. These are probably my biggest
> grievances, but there are many others.
>
> When Macromedia bought out Allaire back in the day, they for whatever reason
> decided to phase out homesite / CF Studio and try to integrate homesite with
> dreamweaver. This did not work out very well, as dreamweaver simply doesn't
> do enough to satisfy the hard-core coder, but it is a great middle ground. I
& gt; could argue for hours over how much better Cold Fusion is over classic ASP
> and even ASP.net, but the fact of the matter still remains that ASP.net is
> widely accepted and easy to work with thanks in part to the power of VS.net.
> I think that Macromedia could compete head-to-head with .net if they
> possesed an IDE that was comparable to its competition.
>
>
> Matt Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Can you elaborate on specifically what capabilities of Visual Studio?
>
>
> On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:39:58 -0800 (PST), Jordan Gouger
> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know of a CF IDE that has the capabilities of Visual
> Studio.net
> > and the HTML / layout capabilites of Dreamweaver? If not, if there are any
> > really skilled java or .net developers in the group that might be
> interested
> > in putting something like that together. Please let me know as I think
> that
> > it if it can be pulled of, it would be a huge asset to the CF community.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jordan
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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