cf php by forta http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=e&entry=1265

On 6/9/05, Justin Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all, 
>   
> What I am really curious about as well is the PHP vs. CF arguement? Seems
> like PHPs use has really grown and other than it's free and open source,
> what are the arguements to use it versus CF? And if I were debating a PHP
> developer, what would I say in regards to ColdFusion as compared to PHP? 
>   
> Thanks, 
> Justin
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> I've started doing some C# programming and agree that it's a waste of
> time to do C# without visual studio. The good thing that I've seen
> about C# and .net is that everything is an object. The intelli-sense in
> Visual Studio is awesome. I would love to see Macromedia/Adobe add that
> functionality to DreamWeaver. It would be cool as you code to know what
> methods and properties are available from your CFC.
> 
> ColdFusion is hands down easier to develop with IMO. But that could be
> a factor of what you are used to. 8 or 9 years of CF development versus
> 2 weeks of C#. Hmmmmm.
> 
> The knock on CF is that it's not free like ASP or PHP. Not sure of what
> VisualStudio costs, but that has to be included in the comparison.
> 
> Tom
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Matthew Woodward
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:59 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: CF VS .Net?
> 
> I've done two smallish projects in C#, and if you don't use Visual 
> Studio the amount of code you have to write is HEINOUS. If you plan 
> to do any amount of .NET development whatsoever, add Visual Studio 
> licenses to the total cost because writing all that code by hand is a 
> nightmare. To me that's not a strength of the Visual Studio tool, 
> it's a weakness of the language. ;-) I just don't understand why 
> everything other than CF (and some J2EE servers of course) doesn't 
> manage your datasources so you can have simple query statements like 
> we have in CF, and that's just one example. All that extra code adds 
> up quickly.
> 
> Matt
> 
> On Jun 9, 2005, at 8:49 AM, John Ivanoff wrote:
> 
> > A while back ben forta blogged on this "Defending ColdFusion 
> > Against ASP.NET"
> > http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=e&entry=1264
> >
> > he said it should be more J2EE vs .NET
> > "ASP.NET apps take advantage of the .NET framework and infrastructure,
> > just like ColdFusion apps take advantage of J2EE"
> >
> > I've looked into .NET and to me it's like programming cobol. 30* lines
> > of code to do a "HELLO WORLD" But I'm sure you can do some really cool
> > stuff with it.
> >
> > * not really but sure seems like 30.
> >
> > On 6/9/05, David Whatley wrote:
> >
> >> Just for discussion, what are the pro's and cons on CF versus .Net?
> >>
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