I agree about the coding with PHP, but the learning curve is definatley easier than trying to pick up .Net. Perhaps the biggest problem with .net is that coding practices that are normally standard with the standard web langauges (CF, asp, PHP, etc) is do not apply in .net. .Net is an entire pardigm shift and is a completly OO language vs CF being a hybrid. However, I agree with Tom about the intellisense. This is to me is one of the coolest features in Visual Studio and I highly encourage Macromedia / Adobe to integrate in to the next release of Dreamweaver. There is an extension to Visual Studio called Visual Assist X that makes the code in VS.net color coded like Dreamweaver does. I think that one of the better features of .Net is the Postback feature. I think that it would make our lifes as CF coders so much easier if we didn't need to waste time coding for form responses.
Jordan
"Knipp, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
PHP is nice because its free, and because there are so many cheap hosting
options for it. On the other hand, the code is downright ugly, and there
are a lot of features built into CF that you don't get in PHP.
Eric
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From: John Ivanoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [BULK] - RE: CF VS .Net? / PHP v. CF
cf php by forta http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=e&entry=1265
On 6/9/05, Justin Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> What I am really curious about as well is the PHP vs. CF arguement? Seems
> like PHPs use has really grown and other than it's free and open source,
> what are the arguements to use it versus CF? And if I were debating a PHP
> developer, what would I say in regards to ColdFusion as compared to PHP?
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've started doing some C# programming and agree that it's a waste of
> time to do C# without visual studio. The good thing that I've seen
> about C# and .net is that everything is an object. The intelli-sense in
> Visual Studio is awesome. I would love to see Macromedia/Adobe add that
> functionality to DreamWeaver. It would be cool as you code to know what
> methods and properties are available from your CFC.
>
> ColdFusion is hands down easier to develop with IMO. But that could be
> a factor of what you are used to. 8 or 9 years of CF development versus
> 2 weeks of C#. Hmmmmm.
>
> The knock on CF is that it's not free like ASP or PHP. Not sure of what
> VisualStudio costs, but that has to be included in the comparison.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Origi nal Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Matthew Woodward
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:59 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: CF VS .Net?
>
> I've done two smallish projects in C#, and if you don't use Visual
> Studio the amount of code you have to write is HEINOUS. If you plan
> to do any amount of .NET development whatsoever, add Visual Studio
> licenses to the total cost because writing all that code by hand is a
> nightmare. To me that's not a strength of the Visual Studio tool,
> it's a weakness of the language. ;-) I just don't understand why
> everything other than CF (and some J2EE servers of course) doesn't
> manage your datasources so you can have simple query statements like
> we have in CF, and that's just one example. All that extra code adds
> up quickly.
>
> Matt
>
> On Jun 9, 2005, at 8:49 AM, John Ivanoff wrote:
>
> > A while back ben forta blogged on this "Defending ColdFusion
> > Against ASP.NET"
> > http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=e&entry=1264
> >
> > he said it should be more J2EE vs .NET
> > "ASP.NET apps take advantage of the .NET framework and infrastructure,
> > just like ColdFusion apps take advantage of J2EE"
> >
> > I've looked into .NET and to me it's like programming cobol. 30* lines
> > of code to do a "HELLO WORLD" But I'm sure you can do some really cool
> > stuff with it.
> >
> > * not really but sure seems like 30.
> >
> > On 6/9/05, David Whatley wrote:
> >
> >> Just for discussion, what are the pro's and cons on CF versus .Net?
> >>
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