FYI: I use .NET and PHP on a daily basis but my favorite is still coldFusion 4.5 and 5.0.
I like to get people mad because it makes me laugh, but on a serious note, here is my personal opinion on scripting languages: I like ColdFusion 1st (older versions only). The newer versions are to slow to develop and debug in as I believe they take to long to interpret the first time and slow my development down greatly). I have ran comparisons where it takes .5 seconds to interpret in 5.0, and takes 7 seconds in 6.0. I own a copy of 6.0 and 7.0 that are not installed because of this main reason. The caching is great, and the next time it runs in 6.0 or 7.0 it will run in only 0.05 seconds. My second favorite is PHP. It's very much like C and easy to use and find free functions and code for. It runs much faster than the newer versions of coldFusion. Some things are easier in PHP, than ColdFusion, but some are harder. ASP 3.0 and below are junk. No file manipulation without COM, poor memory allocation and such. However, by comparison, the code once written is more stable than ASP.NET. ASP.NET is better than ASP 3.0 on features, but compiles slow like the newer ColdFusions. With the instability of VS.NET 2003 and VS.NET 2005, Homesite still rocks for developing code in. If Microsoft would get their bugs worked out, ASP.NET could be good, but currently it looks more like a marketing ploy once you get into it. Currently it is junk. That hasn't stopped me from doing three major projects in it this year though. I can sell it, I just hate coding it. Coding becomes marketing and language should be a company choice in my mind, not an individual coders. Jacob -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Knipp, Eric Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:47 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [BULK] - RE: CF VS .Net? / PHP v. CF PHP is nice because its free, and because there are so many cheap hosting options for it. On the other hand, the code is downright ugly, and there are a lot of features built into CF that you don't get in PHP. Eric -----Original Message----- From: John Ivanoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BULK] - RE: CF VS .Net? / PHP v. CF cf php by forta http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=e&entry=1265 On 6/9/05, Justin Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > What I am really curious about as well is the PHP vs. CF arguement? > Seems like PHPs use has really grown and other than it's free and open > source, what are the arguements to use it versus CF? And if I were > debating a PHP developer, what would I say in regards to ColdFusion as compared to PHP? > > Thanks, > Justin > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've started doing some C# programming and agree that it's a waste of > time to do C# without visual studio. The good thing that I've seen > about C# and .net is that everything is an object. The intelli-sense > in Visual Studio is awesome. I would love to see Macromedia/Adobe add > that functionality to DreamWeaver. It would be cool as you code to > know what methods and properties are available from your CFC. > > ColdFusion is hands down easier to develop with IMO. But that could be > a factor of what you are used to. 8 or 9 years of CF development > versus > 2 weeks of C#. Hmmmmm. > > The knock on CF is that it's not free like ASP or PHP. Not sure of > what VisualStudio costs, but that has to be included in the comparison. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Matthew Woodward > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:59 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: CF VS .Net? > > I've done two smallish projects in C#, and if you don't use Visual > Studio the amount of code you have to write is HEINOUS. If you plan to > do any amount of .NET development whatsoever, add Visual Studio > licenses to the total cost because writing all that code by hand is a > nightmare. To me that's not a strength of the Visual Studio tool, it's > a weakness of the language. ;-) I just don't understand why everything > other than CF (and some J2EE servers of course) doesn't manage your > datasources so you can have simple query statements like we have in > CF, and that's just one example. All that extra code adds up quickly. > > Matt > > On Jun 9, 2005, at 8:49 AM, John Ivanoff wrote: > > > A while back ben forta blogged on this "Defending ColdFusion Against > > ASP.NET" > > http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=e&entry=1264 > > > > he said it should be more J2EE vs .NET "ASP.NET apps take advantage > > of the .NET framework and infrastructure, just like ColdFusion apps > > take advantage of J2EE" > > > > I've looked into .NET and to me it's like programming cobol. 30* > > lines of code to do a "HELLO WORLD" But I'm sure you can do some > > really cool stuff with it. > > > > * not really but sure seems like 30. > > > > On 6/9/05, David Whatley wrote: > > > >> Just for discussion, what are the pro's and cons on CF versus .Net? > >> > >> David Whatley > >> COO > >> AutoRealty Products > >> 817-284-9875 X 105 > >> > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> To post, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe: > >> http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberUnsubscribe.cfm > >> To subscribe: > >> http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberRegistration.cfm > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > To post, send email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberUnsubscribe.cfm > > To subscribe: > > http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberRegistration.cfm > > > > > > > > -- > Matthew Woodward > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > To post, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe: > http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberUnsubscribe.cfm > To subscribe: > http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberRegistration.cfm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > To post, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe: > http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberUnsubscribe.cfm > To subscribe: > http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberRegistration.cfm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- To post, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe: http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberUnsubscribe.cfm To subscribe: http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberRegistration.cfm ----------------------------------------- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this e-mail and attached document(s) may contain confidential information that is intended only for the addressee(s). 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