Michael,

Are you really this dense?

Michael, your comments below are WAY out of line, and I demand an apology.


On 06-Feb-99 Michael Sondow wrote:
>  William X. Walsh a �crit:
>  
> > It should also be pointed out the Mr Sondow was one of the most vocal
> > supporters
> > of the DNSO.org process,
>  
>  I supported the process when it was a good one. I was one of the
>  participants, like Eberhard Lisse, Bill Semitch, Nii Quaynor, Ricardo Sawon,
>  Daniel Kaplan,and many, many others. I never had anything to do with the
>  leadership.

I never said you did.
  
> > even to the point of attacking those who criticized the process.
>  
>  Of course I attacked stupid, arrogant people like you, who never had
>  anything to do with the work the DNSO.org did, understand nothing about it,
>  but think they can shoot their mouths off in public.

No Michael, I had just as much as ANYONE to do with ANY DNSO process.  I
understood EVERYTHING with the DNSO, and as I pointed out, I was a supporter of
this process during and even after both meetings, even if I was not able to
attend either of these hastily arranged meetings.  What you fail to point out
is that EVERY SINGLE complaint I made, you ended up making yourself a couple
weeks later.  Yet you have the audacity to attack me in this fashion?  Who here
is the arrogant one to think that only when YOU made these criticisms they were
valid? 


  
> > Mr Sondow only relatively recently began criticizing the DNSO.org, I
> > suspect because he saw that a lot of what was being said about > DNSO.org's
> > leadership was true.  For someone who was such a proud 
> > and loud supporter of the DNSO.org to have now endorsed a different > draft
> > speaks volumes.
>  
>  I was and am proud to have participated in Monterrey in the drafting of a
>  fine consensus document. When that document was altered, by a few people in
>  the leadership, without the consent of the participants, I condemned that
>  action. I have been honest and consistent throughout. Unlike you, who have
>  never had the decency to learn what's going on before making your idiot
>  pronoucements.

Michael, I ALWAYS knew what was going on, and it should be noted that EVERY
criticism I made of the DNSO.org ended up being made by you a couple weeks
later.  If I didn't know what was going on, it sure seems I hit the nail on the
head.  Does it bother you that I saw the writing on the wall before you?  Is
that it?

  
> > I myself at first supported the DNSO.org process, and encouraged people to
> > give
> > them the benefit of the doubt, and even criticized those who immediately
> > jumped
> > to conclusions because it was a CORE/ITU sponsored process.  I praised what
> > I
> > saw were attempts to be truly representative. I supported it after
> > Barcelona
> > and even after Monterrey.  
>  
>  You? You never had the slightest thing to do with it. Do you think anyone
>  gives a damn what you think, you bloated, self-important twit?

Just because someone didn't attend a meeting doesn't mean they had nothing to
do with the process, and if you think that you are the self important one.

Michael, I'm sorry, but your actions above are NOT one of a representative of
users.

Further, people on the same side should not be attacking one another with
unwarrent attacks.

Your comments demand an apology. A public one.


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E-Mail: William X. Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 06-Feb-99
Time: 11:47:11
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