Esther and all, Esther Dyson wrote: > Maybe there should be a meeting *about* constituencies, as opposed to > necessarily *of* constituencies. Why? It seems to us that the need for pre-defined constituencies is fairly much opposed. The polls that we and Joop ran showed this to be the case fairly clearly. > > > Even the Paris draft suggests that there will be constituencies, just that > they will not be pre-defined: > > "Members of the General Assembly shall self-organize into diverse > constituencies. No member shall be a member of more than one constituency. The > initial constituencies shall be recognized by the ICANN Board based on the > following criteria: ....." The problem with this approach is that it is nearly impossible to define clear and concise criteria that would be open and accountable to any proposed constituency that may be considered, and that the growth of different "Types" of stakeholders is likely to change, or ebb and flow too quickly to accommodate a need in changing that criteria appropriately. > > > Esther > > At 03:00 PM 13/02/99 -0800, Ellen Rony wrote: > >Well, since you asked, my short answer is NO. > > > >Kilnam Chon wrote: > >> our question/suggestion is "do we want to hold preliminary DNSO constituency > >> meetings on 1999.3.4?" if we do, then some constituencies would meet in the > >> morning or afternoon in parallel on 1999.3.4. For example, > >> > >> Morning Afternoon > >> > >> ISP & Connectivity Business > >> Registry Registrar > >> Trademark Non-commercial > > > >This idea smacks of hubris -- deja vu all over again for those who watched > >the IAHC/CORE/PAC/PAB debacle. > > > >ICANN has NOT annointed any DNSO, and the TWO proposals submitted on > >February4 and 5 differ on the issue of constituencies. > > > >Unless you are wedded to a zero-sum game, the prudent course would be to > >use the Singapore time to discuss the constituency issue among proponents > >of BOTH proposals. Frankly, I think you have to figure out how you > >identify and validate DNSO membership before you decide how or whether to > >splinter it up into constituencies. > > > >And by the way, let me say AGAIN that > >* trademark and business are both commercial constituencies > >* registry, registrar and ISP/Connectivity are all infrastructure > >constituencies > > > >The DNSO.ORG proposal groups non-commercial uses of the Internet > >(education, public advocacy, religious, personal, non profit) into ONE > >constituency with 3 > >members on the names Council. 5/6 of the representation (15 members of the > >Names Council) are allotted to operators with a commercial agenda (if > >registries and registrars are for profit) > > > >If there's a separate constituency for trademark owners (which I don't > >think should occur) then there must be a separate constituency for > >education. > > > >And if registries, registrars and ISPs are each given individual > >constituencies, then non-profit organizations, educational institutions, > >public advocacy groups, the religious sector, and personal users would all, > >likewise, be different constituencies. And none of this constituency-based > >approach reflects real percentage use use of the Internet. > > > >My point is that this pie has many ways to slice it, which is where I see > >some intractible differences. Before you slice the pie, you have to have > >everyone come to the table. > > > > > >Ellen Rony Co-author > >The Domain Name Handbook http://www.domainhandbook.com > >================================ // =================================== > >ISBN 0879305150 *=" ____ / +1 (415) 435-5010 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ ) Tiburon, CA > > // \\ "Carpe canine" > > > > > > > > > > Esther Dyson Always make new mistakes! > chairman, EDventure Holdings > interim chairman, Internet Corp. for Assigned Names & Numbers > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 1 (212) 924-8800 > 1 (212) 924-0240 fax > 104 Fifth Avenue (between 15th and 16th Streets; 20th floor) > New York, NY 10011 USA > http://www.edventure.com > > PC Forum: 21 to 24 March 1999, Scottsdale (Phoenix), Arizona > High-Tech Forum in Europe: 24 to 26 October 1999, Budapest > Book: "Release 2.0: A design for living in the digital age" Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Number: 972-447-1894 Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
