Bill and all,
Bill Lovell wrote:
> At 10:04 AM 2/27/99 +0000, you wrote:
> >At 16:26 26/02/99 +0000, Jeff wrote:
> >>
> >> I have had several ISP register Domains for me and I ALWAYS
> >>ask what time date the registration was made and to notify me of that
> >>registration via E-Mail. This is not a reasonable excuse Susan.
> >>WRONG ANSWER here!
> >
> >So what counts as the actual creation date, then? The day I submit the
> >template to InterNIC, or the date that the domain is active on the root
> >servers and visible in the whois database? I know the first with certainty,
> >simply by looking in my outbox. But I don't have any way to prove the
> >second - and it's the actual registration date that counts, not the date of
> >the request.
> >
> If someone wished to register a service mark, that mark either being the
> domain name or being included somewhere in the home page, the date
> that Joe Blow consumer could first have brought up the home page would
> be the date the mark was first used in commerce, which is necessary
> for the service mark registration, hence it is indeed the "second" date above
> that counts, not the day one sent off the request.
Exactly right, it is the registration date that counts. With a Mark, it is
the date it is used in commerce, not the date it is registered. So, I guess
I am wondering why you ask ME this question if you already had the answer.
And second, how does this relate to the omitting of registration date
via whois? Third, how does either the second relate where the responsibility
lies? Forth, what if any is a "Reasonable" remedy? And fifth, does any of this
have any relationship to the where we are at right now, referring to of course
the ICANN's "Accreditation Guidelines"?
I could of course go on here with several other related questions but I think
you can begin to see my point. I will restate it again in my own simple
manner. Neither NSI, or any registrar is totally responsible for how they
choose to represent whois data on a whois query with respect to
information that may be of a personal or private manner. That
responsibility is mainly the responsibility of the Registrant. It would be
BETTER if creation date was available on a whois query, but if it is
anyone's specific domain, than the registrar should take measures
to protect whois data that may be sensitive to the DN owner or registrant.
This would or could include creation date. So some information on a
whois record for a domain should be left up to the registrant as to what they
wish to be publicly available.
>
>
> Bill Lovell
Regards,
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Jeffrey A. Williams
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Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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