Yes, the root cause of the problems remains a determination by certain
powers that they are going to continue to play this as a zero-sum
game, where if anyone else gets anything of value, it must have been
taken from the winner, and the game is to capture all the value for
the winner, no holds barred.
I long long ago tried to convince the US Govt to stop the zero sum
game, and "send the naughty children to bed" until they decided to
along together. This is sort of what the Green Paper did, by stopping
all TLD additions until the issues are resolved.
But, ICANN has now come on the scene, and has restored the zero sum
game meta structure with full competition among the parties, and also
showing favor to some over others by helping them develop theiiir SO
Applications with closed meetings with the chosen few.
So, our only choice at this point is to confront ICANN with full blown
and complete competing applications, so they cannot simply pick there
favorite without cutting imnportant segments of the community out of
the game.
But, at the meta level, we are still waiting for ICANN to take the
lead in helping us to find common values and ways to work together.
Instead, they are one of the main sources of division and conflict.
>From Michael Sondow's message Fri, 08 Jan 1999 02:28:53 -0500:
}
}Einar Stefferud:
}>=2
}> I think that something deeper is going on here, and to the credit of
}> the DNSO.ORG, I think that the fault lies more with the International
}> Chamber of Commerce (ICC) and INTA, and perhaps ICANN's willingness to
}> work in closed meetings with INTA and others, including DNSO.ORG.
}
} (big snip)
}
}Pretty good analysis of things as they now stand, Stef. I feel I ought to
}add to what you said that the January 22nd meeting is, according to the
}latest info (which is scarce), going to be divided into two parts. The first
}part will be for the organizers and their invited guests, whoever these are.
}To the credit of the dnso.org organizers, they seem to have asked for all
}the participants from Monterrey and Barcelona to be admitted as invitees. No
}word has come back yet from John Englund on this.
}
}Then there will apparently be a second part, where others can come and
}speak. This is where the users of the Internet (and by this I mean ALL the
}users) are going to be allowed to make their pleas for democracy and
}fairness and be laughed at by the people with economic power.
}
}So the January 22nd meeting isn't going to be an open meeting, in the
}Internet sense of openness. Some people in the dnso.org organizing teams are
}protesting this and calling for a separate dnso.org meeting. Personally, I
}don't see how that can be avoided in any case, because the participants
}(that is, the dnso.org participants) aren't going to sign a changed
}application that they've never had the chance to discuss, and it now looks
}like there are going to be, how many?, three? four? new application
}proposals by the end of January.
}
}So this mess is getting worse rather than better. That's the concrete
}reality. Instead of things getting more organized, they're getting more
}disorganized. And the reason for this, as Stef has so well pointed out, is
}that all the special interest groups keep scheming and conniving to get
}their own way. I guess everyone's philosophy is that if they keep at it long
}enough, the others will get tired and they'll get what they want. It hasn't
}worked yet, but people don't seem to learn.
}
}Who's fault is all this? Again, Stef's probably right in pointing to ICANN.
}It's this competition for applications, this beauty contest that's been set
}up, where everyone thinks that if they can knock out their opponents they'll
}be declared the winner. Stupid, isn't it? But that's the mentality we're
}dealing with. Really stupid. And meanwhile, NSI has climbed to $175/share.
}
}Personally, I think it's getting to be time for the IFWP wrap-up. Remember
}that? I think it just got put off, really, and now it's catching up with us.
}Yeah, there's going to have to be a summit meeting to straighten things out.
}There's just no other way. And the people who are irreconcilable will be
}told to go outside and fight it out in the street, beat some sense into each
}other, and then come back when they're ready to talk sense.
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