John and all,
Well suppose the Domain is registered to an individual, but is owned
by an organization that is commercial or non-commercial? Which
constituency(s) would that situation fit into?
And the saga of divisiveness continues....
John B. Reynolds wrote:
> Ellen Rony wrote:
> >
> > John B. Reynolds wrote:
> > >
> > >I agree with Michael Sondow. Membership criteria will be a lot
> > clearer if
> > >we base it on the identity of the domain registrant rather than
> > the content
> > >of the Web site (if any).
> >
> > Maybe I'm brain dead today, but how does that work?
> >
> > For example, our county Office of Education is not considered a
> > "commercial" enterprise. However, it owns some rural land used
> > for outdoor
> > public secondary school education during the week, but available for rent
> > as a retreat for businesses on the weekend. This is a very small corner of
> > its activities, but the weekend business gives it a commercial spin. So
> > what constituency fits that registrant?
>
> Typically, entities whose primary purpose is non-commercial do not suddenly
> become commercial just by engaging in limited commercial activities for
> fund-raising purposes. Otherwise, every club that ever held a bake sale
> would be classified as a commercial enterprise.
>
> Whether governmental entities should qualify for the NCDNC (I am presuming
> that the Office of Education is a unit of county government) is another
> question entirely, one which I would be inclined to answer in the negative.
>
> >
> > If a commercial business also wants a separate URL for its community
> > donation efforts (I'm thinking now of the Autodesk Foundation, a unit
> > within the software company's structure), is that commercial?
> >
>
> It would depend on whether or not the foundation is separately incorporated.
>
> > If a registrant who runs a business decides to set up a parody site (I'm
> > thinking of PETA.ORG), is that commercial or non? If the site is making a
> > statement by linking to other commercial entities (in the case of
> > PETA.ORG,
> > to furriers and the Bear-Paw Cookbook) is it then commercial?
>
> If it's registered to the business, it's commercial. If it's registered to
> the individual, it's not. The content of the site and especially who it
> links to are irrelevant. My personal site links to my employer and to four
> different companies whose names include "Reynolds". I don't think anyone
> would argue that it is a commercial site on that basis.
>
> >
> > Here's another one. My brother is a professor at VPI. He has registered
> > several domain names. One for the AAUP (American Association of
> > University
> > Professionals) to help that organization come online; one called
> > sharebook.com, a concept similar to shareware; one for the family site at
> > rony.com, and a fourth at domainhandbook.com. So knowing the domain
> > registrant really doesn't clarify what constituency(ies) are appropriate.
> >
>
> Again, for the purposes of the NCDNC, Web site content should be irrelevant.
> Your brother is an individual domain holder, therefore he's eligible. If
> microsoft.com were held personally by Bill Gates, he would be eligible on
> that basis.
>
> > Do organizations using the Internet to solicit fee-paid memberships count
> > as commercial? Do commercial enterprises using the Internet to display
> > expertise in an area of human activity, without any mention of product or
> > service, count as commercial?
>
> No to the first, yes to the second.
>
> >
> > If Chris "Pokey" Van Allen decides to collect his experience with his
> > domain name dispute into a booklet, available through the site for $3.00
> > postage, must he change his constituency from non to commercial?
> >
>
> No.
>
> >
> > And you certainly cannot tell anything by the .COM, NET and ORG suffix. In
> > the past year, many registrants have grabbed all three expressly
> > to throw a
> > safety net over a desired name.
> >
>
> I haven't argued that one could.
>
> >
> >
> > Ellen Rony Co-author
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> >
> >
Regards,
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