At 09:41 AM 3/31/99 -0800, you wrote:
>>And now an interesting question: registries and domain
>>names aside, do I own that IP? Those friggin' NUMBERS?
>>That one little segment of the whole WORLD WIDE WEB?
>>I don't think so. So from WHERE did Iperdome get the range
>>of IP numbers that it is so happily populating with .per
>>thingees? Didn't somebody allocate those? Doesn't that
>>somebody have the ultimate sayso about those numbers?
>
>There are whole blocks of IP space that are free for anyone to use at no
>charge.
Doesn't answer the point. SOMEBODY has to have given blocks
www.xxx.yyy.zzz to party A, and another www'.xxx'.yyy'.zzz' to
party B., wherein there is no duplication. If there is, collision in
alternative universes will occur, and life as we know it will cease
to exist.
>
>>If they weren't paid, would they take them back? If I failed
>>to pay my rent, would I lose my IP and my space? Yes.
>>Would I lose cerebalaw? Not on your tintype. Any
>>registrary entity that tried to give it to anyone else
>>would rue the day. Why? Because that's MY trademark.
>>If it ever happened, I wouldn't write any letter to any
>>registrar such as you know who; I'd sue the bastards.
>
>Uh Bill, I have customers, using NAT, that have all their workstations on
>DHCP assigned class-A space, that is NOT part of the Internet. I have other
>customers that are in FTN space, and I have UUCP systems as well. None of
>them pay ARIN for space. Of course I assign them IP out of my net-block for
>the gating functions.
No kidding. I'm shortly going to have a lovellnet that runs from my den to
my basement, and I'm not asking anybody for space in which to do it, and
it won't be on the Internet either. However, there will be a hub that DOES
connect to the internet, and as to that hub, I've got to play with the big
boys.
If you want to play in your "DHCP assigned class-A space" -- whatever the
hell that is! -- sand box with the rest of the kids and not bother all the
Internet folks, well, have fun. If I read you correctly, though, what I'm
talking about is the "IP out of [your] net-block for the gating functions" and
which correlates with how my "hub" connects to the Internet, and there I
believe we both have to play by the rules.
>
>>>I'd say that it is the "registries" role
>>>to brand and market a TLD.
>>
>>Not in our lifetimes.
>
>One entity, "Network Solutions". Your lifetime is mighty short.
Nah. Just because NSI thinks it has anything there don't make it so.
(And you'd be astonished about my lifetime, methinks!)
>Now *these are points to be noted (and I *am* taking notes, good stuff
>Maynard.). To digest and clarify, were I to use MHSC as the TLD (and "MHSC"
>is clearly Morgan Hill Software Company, Inc's trademark, check the
>home-page) then no-one could stop me and the procedure I described earlier
>would hold.
I'll go check shortly. Have you got a big, gorgeous logo? :-)
Bill Lovell
