Brian and all,
The problem with this approach is that it is apparent that you would
be beating a dead horse. Judging from the comments thus far received
such a fee is or does not have any "Rough Consensus" approval.
Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> Having originated the phrase "or for a small processing fee,"
> maybe I should try to justify it.
>
> 1. it is vague - that is a feature, not a bug. The judgement call
> on admitting new signatories would include the judgement call
> on this, as one of a number of judgements. That's why existing
> signatories would have to approve new signatories (another phrase
> that I originated).
>
> 2. much as we might like to see the leopard change its spots, the ITU
> is unlikely to abolish a $10M slice of its budget in order to
> join the PSO. Viewing this as a way to exclude the ITU, or as a
> way to force change on the ITU, is the wrong way to look at it.
> We should just make the PSO the way we think it should be, and
> if that qualifies or disqualifies any particular SDO, so be it.
>
> That being said, if I had to set up a $10 purchase order each time
> I downloaded an RFC, life would be very painful.
>
> Brian
>
> Shaw, Robert wrote:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Scott Bradner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 5:23 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: a cut at a icann-based pso
> > >
> > > Tony suggests changing the access to standards requirement to say:
> > > Makes its resulting standards and/or specifications
> > > publicly available via the Internet, with no controls
> > > on their access and distribution, except to protect
> > > their integrity or identity.
> > >
> > > This would exclude most traditional standards organizations
> > > including the ITU.
> > >
> >
> > I see a lot of misinformation and prejeudices posted here
> > (and unfair potshots at Scott)...
> >
> > Most ITU Recommendations can be purchased on-line for about US$ 13.00
> > but there are some that are more expensive (the algorithm is based on
> > number of pages and if it is a "pre-published" Recommendation...).
> >
> > A lot of folks, including myself, would like to see ITU standards
> > freely available. Gawd knows it would make our life easier here
> > in the Secretariat. However, most attempts to implement this have
> > met with considerable resistance from our governmental and private
> > sector members who look at it solely from the perspective of the
> > impact of this on our budget and their budgetary contributions (sales
> > of ITU standards generated about US$ 10 million last year with over
> > half of that from electronic sales).
> >
> > We can try from the Secretariat to encourage our members down a certain
> > path but it's they who make the final decision. Lots of big IETF-active
> > companies are also members of ITU so it is sort of up to them to apply
> > the pressure.
> >
> > Bob
> > --
> > Robert Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Head, IED/Advisor, Global Information Infrastructure
> > International Telecommunication Union <http://www.itu.int>
> > Place des Nations, 1211 Geneva, Switzerland
Regards,
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