Patrick and all,

Patrick Greenwell wrote:

On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Richard J. Sexton wrote:

> >On 15-Jan-99 Richard J. Sexton wrote:
> >> Patricks premise is if people primary the root zone, the robustness of the
> >> net
> >> is compromised.
> >
> >That is not what he is saying, Richard, and you know it.
>
> No, actually not. Pardon me.
>
> >Alternative roots
> >(which advertise non-internal TLDs that are not in the Internet Roots) and
> >encourage others outside their organization to use them (or even internal TLDs
> >which conflict with outside ones) WILL destabilize the Internet.
>
> So far the only argument that has been offered here is that if somebody
> intentionally causes a namespace collision in tld-space with a tld
> that currently has no universally agreed on source of authority.

No, it isn't. You aren't reading very carefully Richard. Who, besides
yourself said anything about *intentionally* causing a namespace
collision? What if, unknowingly a conflict was created, and both parties
felt that they were really the "owner" of a TLD?

  If they don't know who owns a TLD, then are amongst the clueless.
sort to like you Patrick.  I KNOW who owns .com, .net, and .org, that is
NSI!  Duhhh!  In any event any of the TLD's that I am running right
now belong to us and we KNOW that any other registries considering adding
TLD's to any root structure should first do some checking before running
any TLD's.  Same should go for any DNSO, or ICANN.  For instance,
IOD is running .WEB and Iperdom is running .PER, we all know this,
any other future registry, whomever might approve that registry, that intends
to run a registry for either of those two TLD's, need to work that out
with Iperdome and IOD before doing so.
 

Second there is the issue of a TLD being resolveable by some and not by
others. I would consider a TLD that is recognized by 25% of nameservers on
the planet to be a destabilizing force.

  Dam Patrick, get a clue!  This depends on who is first!!!
 

> Furthermore, what Patricks orignal argument seems to boil down to is
> "if people have alternative roots, and do it without cooperating
> with each other and do it wrong (and yes, I consider somebody
> setting up anauthoratative TLD server when there is ample
> evdence that there is already somebody authoratative for that
> zone, that I call thatdoing it wrong; if you don't accept this
> it would seem to me I could set up anauthoratative tld
> servr for .TJ) then there is a problem.

Who is deciding who is "authoratative?" And by what right do they claim
that ability?

  Again Patrick, get a clue!  The answer is WHO IS FIRST!!!!
 

> Well, no kidding.

Glad you agree.

> When people go out of their way to screw thigns up, the net's integrity
> is compromised. This is no different from a smurf attack.

Are you able to grasp the possibility that the collison may be
unintentional, but the operator of the registries would be unlikely to
give up their claim? Even if it is intentional, without an organization
that is "authoratative" for the assignation of TLDs, company A's claim is
most likely no more valid then company B's claim.

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