Kent and all,
Kent Crispin wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 1999 at 07:53:42PM -0700, Christopher Ambler wrote:
> > >We are quibbling about definitions, not facts. By definition, a gTLD
> > >is one in the ICANN/IANA root.
> >
> > Wrong. That's YOUR definition. Mine is different. I suspect that the
> > one that counts would be ICANN's, and it has no resemblance to
> > yours.
>
> Where did you get that idea? By ICANN's definition, a TLD *is* a
> domain in the IANA/ICANN root, and, once again by ICANN's definition,
> gTLDs are in the IANA/ICANN root, as well.
First of all sense when did the current legacy root servers become
the ICANN/IANA Roots?
> By ICANN's definition.
> By IANA's definition. By the definition in rfc 1591. By the
> definition in the gTLD-MoU and the IAHC proposals. The genesis of
> the definition is simple, documented, historical fact.
What you are proporting is not historical fact, but is due in part to
some very creative gTLD-MoU documentation which of course has
been shown to be VERY questionable.
>
>
> But it is also obvious from first principles that a definition that
> includes my ".kjc" zone -- or my ".web", or your ".web", or Iperdomes
> ".per", or even the ".gov" and ".com" I run for LLNL -- is not useful
> to ICANN.
Legally it may very well become very useful to the ICANN in the future.
In fact, such a comment I am sure is not considered seriously by the
ICANN as if it was would be in violation of their own MoU agreement with
the DOC/NTIA as well as their own Bylaws.
>
>
> > A gTLD is a "Global TLD." There is no definition beyond that.
>
> Nope. A gTLD is a "generic TLD". The definition comes from
> rfc1591 and the gTLD-MoU. rfc1591:
>
> 2. The Top Level Structure of the Domain Names
>
> In the Domain Name System (DNS) naming of computers there is a
> hierarchy of names. The root of system is unnamed. There are a set
> of what are called "top-level domain names" (TLDs). These are the
> generic TLDs (EDU, COM, NET, ORG, GOV, MIL, and INT), and the two
> ***********
> letter country codes from ISO-3166.
>
> RFC1591 describes *THE* root, otherwise known as the IANA root, soon
> to be the ICANN root.
>
> The IAHC proposal referenced this defnition, and created the
> abbreviation, which was the source of the name for the gTLD-MoU.
>
> There is a persistent effort on the part of people like you to twist
> the definitions of terms to suit their own purposes, and that
> sometimes leads to confusion. Also, the ICANN directors, having been
> carefully chosen for their non-involvement in these issues, may have
> loosly spoken about this at one time or another, but they know better
> now. I personally know that the people drafting the legal documents
> are *very* well aware of the definitions.
>
> > If you
> > wish to name it so,
>
> I didn't name it so, and my wishes have nothing to do with it. The
> name is a matter of historical fact, and ICANN is following that
> precedent.
>
> > then I shall define that the commercial domain
> > holder's constituency only covers those commercial domains owned
> > by people with the initials CA who live in Washington State and
> > use the domain while wearing my underwear.
>
> That has the same level of meaning as your calling ".web" a gTLD. As
> far as ICANN (and most people for that matter) are concerned .web is
> not a gTLD. It's not a TLD. IODesign is not a gTLD registry, and it
> doesn't belong in the gTLD registry constituency.
>
> I repeat my earlier observation -- it is very interesting how
> serious, real, organizations and businesses don't play these word
> games about all the constituencies they should belong to.
>
> --
> Kent Crispin "Do good, and you'll be
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] lonesome." -- Mark Twain
>
>
Regards,
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