On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 10:07:25AM -0700, Mark C. Langston wrote:
> 
> On 14 October 1999, Kent Crispin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Jay Fenello in the news:
> >
> >http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/10/circuits/articles/14spin.html
> >
> >Is it relevant that someone is paid by an entity with a major 
> >financial stake in the issues?
> >
> >Richard Sexton and Tony Rutkowski have also acknowledged being paid
> >consultants of NSI.  All three claim that this has nothing to do with
> >what they say -- that is, that NSI supports them because of what they
> >have a natural inclination to say. 
> 
> 
> Yeah, Kent.  Heaven forbid, someone with a major financial stake in 
> the issues should participate in forming DNS issues.

As you well know, the issue is deception.

> ..oh, wait, that's
> pretty much every participant in the DNSO, isn't it?

Absolutely not.  From my personal knowledge: I don't have any
financial stake.  Dave Crocker doesn't.  David Maher doesn't.  Javier
Sola doesn't.  Roberto Gaetano doesn't.  Karl Auerbach, I believe,
has no financial stake.  None of the ICANN Board, to my knowledge,
has any financial stake in DNS issues.  My impression is that *you*
don't have a financial stake....

> Kent, ICANN is nothing *but* monied interests.  There's only a handful
> of people with any actual say in the proceedings that don't have 
> a financial interest in the outcome.

None of the board has a financial interest in the outcome.

> Those of us who do not stand
> to gain financially and do not currently have any kind of direct
> say in what goes on keep trying to change that, and keep getting
> batted down by the large-money folks.

What do you mean by "direct say"?  Tell me how it is, for example, 
that MCI has a "direct say".  Could you point out to me where MCI 
gets to make direct vote on any ICANN policy matter?

Or maybe a big TM interest, like Disney.  Could you point out to me 
where we see Disney's direct vote on any ICANN policy matter?

It looks to me like *every* entity goes through some number of levels
of representation, and what you are concerned about is number of
levels.  Is that true?

-- 
Kent Crispin                               "Do good, and you'll be
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                           lonesome." -- Mark Twain

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